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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 6, 2004 10:39:14 GMT -5
Tyne Sea Trout 06-09-04 An update taken from www.tynefishing.comAnyone who has been ringing the dam release line will be frustrated as the answer phone message has not as yet been updated. I can tell you though that there is still a good release coming down the river and that the fish seem to have woken up again. Robert Keeney the hotel gillie had a good couple of days fishing in the Hexham area with 6 salmon from 5.5lb to 16lb. Moving further up the river to Wark area i am hearing that Chipchase is producing some good sport and a junior member of Wark A.C. landed two cracking fish this week. The young chap had a 10lb sea trout and a 16lb salmon both to a size 10 Cascade. Not many people fishing in Bellingham this week but David Turner of the Rose and Crown landed his first fish to the fly on Ferry Hill, a 6lb grilse on a silver stoat. David also took two salmon off Redeswood to Stoats tails of 12 & 15lb. It is worth noting that it was around this date last year when the silver stoat started catching a lot of fish. Hotel resident Gary Bright landed and returned two sea trout at Snabdough, both to purple ally's a fly which does better than you would expect when you see it. Thank you to the gent who emailed me the following information on two belting fish caught on the Farnley Syndicate on the main Tyne, i do appreciate any info. i get. I thought you might like to know that one of my fellow Monday rods on the above stretch of the main Tyne managed to land TWO fish in excess of 20 lb on Monday 31 August 2004. First fish on a Black and Orange waddington was kyped and slightly coloured but the second fish, the bigger of the two at around 23 lb or so, was taken on a black upstream flying c and was as fresh as a daisy. Said rod was mightily chuffed as you would expect.
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Post by smoker on Sept 6, 2004 17:20:59 GMT -5
An update taken from www.tynefishing.com"Anyone who has been ringing the dam release line will be frustrated as the answer phone message has not as yet been updated." The message has actually been updated for nearly a week now, that as of 9.30am today (6/9/04) the 15cmps release is knocked back to 10.5cmps. "a junior member of Wark A.C. landed two cracking fish this week. The young chap had a 10lb sea trout and a 16lb salmon both to a size 10 Cascade" That "Young chap" was myself andf I'm 52 yrs of age... thanks anyway ;D Cheers. Ray, aka 'Smoker' & WAC "young chap"
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 7, 2004 0:28:24 GMT -5
Ray
Must be nice being 52 and people calling you a "young chap" !!
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 9, 2004 11:28:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know what has happened to the number of views counter for this thread ? 09-09-04 An update taken from www.tynefishing.com : A high pressure system and clear blue skies seem to have put the fish off the take almost completely at the moment. There has been the odd salmon and sea trout taken but with an average of 12 rods per day it is a bit grim. If you are going on the water in these conditions then i would suggest that you use very small flies. It is typical that last month when we had rain, good conditions and plenty of running fish there were not many rods on the water. Both Darren Brown and David Turner have managed to catch salmon in the last week both fish were taken in Bellingham area. Darren's was 12lb, was very clean and was his first ever salmon. David's was his third in a week and was again taken on a silver stoats tail. The release from Kielder is a steady 10.5cmps until further notice, which is a fairly good height although fish do tend to short take on this amount. Weather conditions are getting wetter at the weekend with persistent rain and thunder forecast, so fingers crossed things will pick up. I will be fishing all weekend and will not be checking emails again until Monday when hopefully i will be able to report some catches. I have checked with fellow anglers up and down the river with the following results from the last few days: Bywell- Patchy but are having some success (hotel resident David Barter 2 salmon this week) Corbridge- Very poor with several rods blanking Chesters- The odd fish being caught Wark area (Chipchase, Nunwick etc.)- Odd fish here and there Bellingham area- The odd fish earlier in the week but poor at the moment, fish have been seen plodding through by Robert the gillie I will leave you with an extract form and email i received earlier in the week from Chris and Mick; Dear Johnathan, Just arrived back home from our week at the Riversdale Hotel and wish to thank you very much for setting up the fishing. We've thoroughly enjoyed our holiday at the Blakey Apartment which could not have been more comfortable. Also some delicious meals at the hotel where the staff could not have been more friendly. Anne and Michael in particular. I would loved to have met you as Michael described you as a 'fishing nut' (which I regard myself as). Perhaps our paths might coincide on one of the hotel waters in the future. From the moment I arrived at the Hotel on Saturday late afternoon I started fishing on the fast fast fly water at the top ofthe beat where Michael directed me. I dont know what the dam release figures were put there was a heavy pull on the water. Had it been a natural spate river it would have looked perfect. I wondered if it had some fresh water mixed in with it from the previous weeks rain as the Eden looked good when I crossed it coming up. I fished until dark with a variety of shrimp patterns but no luck. I did see one fish move though and took heart about what you had said about ther were fishing moving through the system. The next day (Sunday) I left my wife sleeping and fished the top Hotel beat again for two hours from about 7.00am. Again no luck though the fly fished beautifully. Then after breakfast my wife dropped me of at Snabdough. By the way the fishing video you and Michael completed was superbly instructive and in a subliminal way the little pieces of advice about lies stuck in my mind as I fished the beat. Charles, the beat owner and a lovely Northumbrian gentleman, was in the hut with two of his friends, Jack and Mary (both in their seventies) who were fishing the beat. They could not have been more helpful and passed on lots of good advice. I fished the run with fly several times but it was a very blustery day with some very heavy showers and it wasn't easy. I never saw one fish move all day. Then just as Jack and Mary were about to leave around midday day I had set up my spinning rod with a jointed rapala to fish it like a fly combing Blackie's Hole. Something big hit it just above the bush on the opposite bank. Jack could see my rod bent and started to set up his net. As he joined me at the waterside ready to watch me play out the fish it suddenly went slack. I cursed my knots but when I reeled in the 12lb flurocarbon had snapped. This was a brand new spool and a good brand. This must have been a very decent fish. Jack advised me to upgrade so I did to 15lb Maxima. I fished for two hours on my own on the beat with nothing showing and then as I approached the wall on Jackie's hole I hit what a I thought was a rock. I thought briefly that this was strange as I had not encountered anything before at this spot. Then a the rod was nearly pulled out of my hand and the biggest salmon I have ever encountered (and I've had salmon up to 20lbs) leapt out of the water and started to tear down stream. With my drag working overtime I was terrified it would get to the faster water below. At times like this you have conversations with yourself about doing everything right interspersed with lots of prayers about the fish staying on. After about 60 yds I could feel it was still on and thanked God several times. I then put some side strain on and off it went again stripping line of the reel like an express train. By this time I was at the gate posts where the car run joins the river bank but this fish was a long way from me getting near the fast tail water. I thought I would never be able to resist its power if it got into that pull or if it tired and went belly up in the current so I gambled on tightening my drag thinking I might lead it up like a dog as some fishing books say is possible. The strategy backfired on me as the starin on the rod was tremendous and then it went slack. After shouting innumerable obscenities I felt sick. I was probably lucky not to sprain an ankle the way I ran down what is a bank riddled with grass tussocks and holows. I put this fish at least into the mid-twenties of pounds. They say big fish do not jump but this one did the moment I hooked it and from my brief look at it its tail was huge and its girth massive. I've never encountered a fish as powerful and may never do again. I could have weapt and kept telling myself never to mess around with drag systems again when playing a fish. In the late afternoon I landed a grilse of about 8/9lbs. This lifted my spirits. It was a good colour and a keeper. To finish my day I landed a 2lb sea trout which I returned. On the Monday I fished Snabdough again. I did actually see one or two fish move in Blackie's Hole. However, I did not connect with any slamon. I fished opposite the gate posts as Jack and your video advised and thought I'd hooked a bright grilse on a toby which actually turned out to be a 4lbish sea trout which I gave to Charles. Then, the rest of the week I concentrated on fly at Tarset and Redeswood but only managed three parr on the latter beat. Both beats fish the fly superbly. When I dropped my wife of at Hexham station so she could go to Newcastle I even fished the Tynedale Beat at the top of the golf course on the main river. It was litterally stuffed with fish, some of them huge! I was convinced I would catch but no luck after several hours before going back to Redeswood. Another angler told me that on Bywell Syndicate on the Monday of that week one angler had 11 fish on the fly all tide liced and four over 20lbs. What a river! By the middle of the week though the weaher had got nicer and nicer and the fishing harder and harder. Finally, I put in many hours on Newton on the Saturday and again no luck though I still enjoyed it all. Perhaps the river needs some low pressure and rain to bring the fish on the take. They are there as you say and Micheld told me as I was settling up today that his mate had had two salmon from Redeswood very early that morning though he had no luck himself before he had to leave the beat to start work.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 11, 2004 8:44:46 GMT -5
11-09-04
A news paper article from last week :
MP taking up fish fight Sep 4 2004
By The Evening Chronicle Jim Cousins is fighting to save the growing numbers of wild fish in North East rivers being contaminated by their farmed Scottish cousins.
The Newcastle Central MP has been quizzing the Government on what it is doing to stop the growing numbers of trout and salmon in rivers such as the Tyne and Tweed from interbreeding with fish that have escaped from farms north of the border.
He wants Westminster to develop a strategy with the Scottish Executive in Edinburgh to deal with the problem before it becomes a major issue.
So far the senior Labour backbencher has had little success. But when Parliament returns next week he plans to take up the issue again with the Rural Affairs minister Alun Michael.
Mr Cousins said: "I have become increasingly concerned about the possibility of the contamination of the wild fish in the rivers of the North East. The river Tyne has now been transformed into a very good breeding ground as are other rivers in the region up to and including the Tweed on the Scottish border.
"But with increasing numbers of farmed salmon and trout escaping from Scottish fish farms, I don't want to see cross breeding which will result in the loss of distinctiveness of the North East's native wild species."
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 11, 2004 8:49:52 GMT -5
11-09-04
River Levels :
Main Tyne 0.08mts above summer height, North Tyne 0.27mts above summer height, South Tyne 0.05mts below summer height.
All above river levels are said to be steady.
Managed my second fish of the week today, a very fresh run salmon of around 8-10lb taken on a small silver stoats plastic tube at Merryshields on the Northumbrian Anglers Federation water.
There are now plenty fish in the lower river pools with good numbers of running fish also showing on there way upstream.
There is more rain forecast tomorrow which should hopefully set the action away on the South Tyne again.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 13, 2004 11:40:32 GMT -5
13-09-04
The river has come up around 2 - 3 ft since yesterday and is slowly dropping.
This should get the fish on the move again and i'm expecting some excellent catches to be made on the North and South Tyne's.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 14, 2004 0:33:34 GMT -5
14-09-04 An update taken from www.tynefishing.comOn friday evening i fished on Tarset for 4 hours and it wasn't until 1/2 before dark that i saw a fish. I had a good take shortly afterwards followed by a sea trout of 3.5lb taken underneath the power cables. This has to my knowledge been the only fish landed since 4th September, up to this morning in Bellingham area. There have been fish hooked every day but non landed but very few fish actually spotted the last week has been disappointing. On the brighter side just downstream there are a massive amount of fish just one spate away, how do i know this?. There have been some very big runs coming through Bywell in the last month and i have been told by two different sources that large numbers of fish have been coming over the weir at Hexham. At Chester's last week a party landed 10 salmon and several sea trout, two of the sea trout were 12lb and one at 9lb. Many of the running fish are reported to be grilse. Although the South Tyne is very low, Robert the gillie was at Redeswood today where the river was up and dirty and he was frustrated as the chaps with him were not equipped for salmon. I asked him if the rock at the junction was covered to which he replied yes, which means that the water is up at least 6 inches. He also said that he was seeing fish coming through this afternoon although not huge amounts as yet. Usually i would be very excited at this point but i am slightly worried as the dam release is dropping from 10.5cmps to the base flow of 1.5cmps tomorrow at 7.30am.This means that by tomorrow afternoon the river will have dropped 18 inches. So the questions i am asking myself are these, will the fish get to us?, and if so when the water drops will they stop in hotel beats? and if the main body of fish do not get to us then will there be enough fresh water in the river to keep the fish moving?. The next couple of days could be very good but at least they should be improved from the last week but of course i will let you know A.S.A.P.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 14, 2004 11:29:18 GMT -5
14-09-04
River levels update :
Main Tyne (Bywell) 0.41mts above summer level, North Tyne (Riverhill) 0.56mts above summer level, South Tyne (Featherstone) 0.22mts above summer level, Rede (Rede Bridge) 0.22mts above summer level.
All above levels are falling slowly.
Kielder release currently 1.5cmps untill further notice.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 15, 2004 9:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 15, 2004 13:51:43 GMT -5
15-09-04 I have heard through the grape vine that a member of this forum is having a decent week at Lambley on the South Tyne. I will leave the details for him to post when he returns
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Post by Tyne Angler on Sept 16, 2004 7:28:08 GMT -5
16-09-04 Another update courtesy of Jonathan at www.tynefishing.com : Plenty of fish now being caught on all local rivers but the South Tyne appears to be fishing the best. Hotel residents fishing near Haydon Bridge on the South Tyne had 4 salmon and a sea trout on their last day, the Steele party commented that the water was in super form. Kielder dam did not do the North Tyne any favours dropping the water as the spate arrived and residents had to put up with one day of dirty water and the next day the river was just about down to it's bare bones. The South Tyne with it's larger catchment has more prolonged spates, however on the North we can expect a 10.5cmps release from Kileder today, this release will continue until the same time on Sunday. Redeswood has produced fish in the last couple of days with two salmon around the 11-12lb mark and a sea trout of 2.5lb. Newton has seen a 6lb grilse and a 3lb sea trout and Stuart MacFalane has taken a 2.5lb sea trout from the Rede part of Redeswood beat. The Rede is in very good condition. A 22.5lb and a 12lb salmon were both taken off Tyne Green in Hexham yesterday to a toby and five sea louced fish were taken in the Corbridge area. I do try and be as accurate as possible with my reports, however sometimes exact details can be muddled through word of mouth. I reported incorrect details on last weeks report, one was of a junior angler from Wark who turned out to be 52! (He has Junior member next to his name on the fishing forum). The second was information about catches on Chester's which were understated, below is an email i received with the full details of the chester's catches and after that the latest fish counter statistics from Riding Mill. Hi Johnny, I follow your reports from the North Tyne avidly as it was my week at Chesters last week that you refer to. Can I just take the chance to fill you in on the details. We finished with 10 salmon, 12,10,10,9,9,8.5,7.5,5.5,5,4lb and 9 seatrout 7.5,4,4,3.5,3,2.5,2.5,2.5,2lb for the week all on the fly, 6 fish on monday in the cloud and them hard work until friday and saturday when the cloud returned, we did catch every day, with only thursday failing to produce a salmon (although 2 seatrout were caught) and despite fishing very early and into dark during the sunny days tended to pick up salmon and seatrout from 9-10am and 6.30-7.30 ie not in the gloaming. The good news for you is the number of mint silver fish we caught and saw running through, especially on Friday when a heavy run of grilse followed by some really heavy fish(I got broken by one of then) went through in the morning and early afternoon. Every day we saw running fish including some in the 20's and plenty in the teens to go with the grilse. After 3 years of taking this beat at this time it was the first time we have had really fresh fish in the catches and we killed 6 of the salmon and 5 of the seatrout. All in all a good week with all of the party taking fish include a first seatrout for Hazel my wife and a first salmon and seatrout for another rod Mark Lloyd after 12 years of trying. I cant help feeling we should have done better with the number of silver fish in the beat. This was the first time that the lower beat (6 salmon, 4 seatrout) has outfished the upper beat (4 salmon, 5 seatrout) reinforcing the fact that we were fishing for running fish. Good luck for the autumn and keep up the website, it is a really great service Simon
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Post by Kevin on Sept 16, 2004 15:47:00 GMT -5
Hello Dave. I haven’t posted for a while but still call in regularly to see what is happening. You deserve a many thanks for the continued updates and reports.
It would be interesting to hear from the other lurkers how their Tyne season is going. My observations are that there was very little sea trout and salmon activity until the mid August rains then the fishing really picked up. Now we’ve had a steady, high water on the north Tyne after such a long period of low water, many fish have raced through the lower reaches straight up to higher parts of the river. The rain and Kielder releases should keep fish moving for the next few days so spot should be good. The south Tyne rises and fall much quicker than the north, on its day it should be excellent and that is where I’ll start on my day off tomorrow.
Kevin
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Post by smoker on Sept 16, 2004 16:22:48 GMT -5
From Wark Angling Club Waters;
I can't be very precise about weights etc, by the way this is the 'Juniour' member talking. I have caught a 4 lb sea trout today to fly, yesterdayanother member caught a salmon and two sea trout on spinner and today another member apparently caught a Salmon to spinner all on the Blindburn Pool.
As a general observation, Club Waters have been positively hopping with fish recently but few taken. Indeed this evening, even with the water low with the base flow of 1.5cmps release there were a tantalising number of fish jumping, but none except the one I took on a number 10 Munroe Killer tempted.
The 'Blindburn Pool' is the premier spot on our waters for fish, offering a beautiful glide and large deep holding pool perfect for both fly and spinner.
Tight Lines.
Smoker
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Post by Kevin on Sept 17, 2004 15:35:17 GMT -5
The south Tyne was flowing low and clear this morning, the sun shone and the fish were nowhere to be seen. Across on the north Tyne, the water level came up with the release from Kielder; fish are showing in patches as they run through the lower reaches a few at a time. None stopped long enough to take a tasty fly carefully swung across the current. Our catch returns include a lot of grilse and small salmon to about 10lbs this year, larger fish feature occasionally. Fewer sea trout than usual have been taken, they arrived late with the wet August weather.
Kevin
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