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Post by osprey on Oct 12, 2005 11:11:51 GMT -5
Think Leven still has a lot of work to do Amanda,special place though that it always will be,Not sure anglers that fish Leven go to fish a hotspot, if that were the case theyd be as well stocking the harbour and damming it off . anyway good luck to Leven for next season, hope it improves
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Post by secretary on Oct 12, 2005 13:50:01 GMT -5
You are correct to a certain extent osprey and doods, but we are trying differant things the next few years. Hopefully we'll get it either right or at least close to what all angler's want and not just the few existing leven anglers.
What I will say again, as the comments are there again is, leven had a lot to do this year and done it, the water let us down again as it will probably in the future. Also those so called hot spots are more often than not the size of and in most cases larger than many fisheries in scotland.
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Post by magicone on Oct 13, 2005 12:46:53 GMT -5
The many anglers that fish the loch wish a return to the halcien days of rising fish. As I posted on another site I, and my friends have noticed a lack of fly life and hence rising fish on the loch. I don,t think I saw one "curly bum" all year. I caught fish but they were all sub surface, The lack of fly activity is something that needs to be addressed.
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Post by TOSHY on Oct 14, 2005 3:25:26 GMT -5
Magicone this is not only happening on Loch Leven,the whole of the country is suffering from this problem,a great lack of insects,I agree with you that most trout on the loch are caught sub surface ,Only place this year i have had good sport on floating line was a day on the lake,but it also is showing a lack of insects just ask the lucky people that fish it all the time. The days of smoke columns coming from the bower ,kelson are gone me thinks
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Post by osprey on Oct 14, 2005 15:06:03 GMT -5
Secretary,why dont you put 5,000 or so rainbows in the loch early season as it is may till the broons come on
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Post by secretary on Oct 15, 2005 5:19:23 GMT -5
Personaly I'd love to, but I don't hold the purse strings and do not have the the final say, but I do agree with you totally. It wouldn't only give us early season sport it would allow a % of them to overwinter which is sorely needed again. Believe me I try very hard for this to happen. Not so confident it will though.
No doubt the fly life is a major issue also, but until pollution is dealt with, fly life will not survive. Again, this is a thing that was talked about but the old pollution problem rung through again. 'Farmers and chemicals' until they stop, it will be difficult.
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Post by secretary on Oct 31, 2005 16:17:32 GMT -5
Just thought I'd throuw in a post to see what the thoughts were on the new cormorant report out by FRS in Pitlochery. This study was done 3-4 years ago.
The Paper is 9 pages long and makes some interesting reading, but, the jist of it is: They are saying that cormorants on loch leven are eating no less than 80,000 trout per winter.
This is the number of fish on average we have stocked in the last 6 years.
Doesn't it tell it's own story. This isn't only loch leven this is happening to either, every water that has fish in this will be affecting them.
The magazine it was published in is the Zooolgical society of London. If you can find it on the web then you've had better luck than me.
On a happier note the fish are running the burn at the fish farm big time. We have seen around 10,000 fish coming into the trap, one amazing site.
If anybody lives close enough to come through and see them you really should, it's an incredible sight.
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Post by oldtrout on Nov 2, 2005 1:18:08 GMT -5
secretary, where is the burn and fish farm?,are the public allowed in for a look around?
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Post by magicone on Nov 2, 2005 12:35:42 GMT -5
Ah, homing trout, this could start a trend, you could sell the fish to other lochs, two day,s later bobs your uncle their back at the farm.
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Post by secretary on Nov 2, 2005 14:10:47 GMT -5
This is more of an invite from myself. If you are interested let me know and I'll arrange to meet you.
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Post by osprey on Nov 4, 2005 15:10:41 GMT -5
The Paper is 9 pages long and makes some interesting reading, but, the jist of it is: They are saying that cormorants on loch leven are eating no less than 80,000 trout per winter. This is the number of fish on average we have stocked in the last 6 years. Looks like you need to stock 80,000 plus fish a year or sort out the corrys then secretary
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Post by moustique on Nov 6, 2005 15:02:52 GMT -5
With regards cormorants, why are they a protected species?
Isn't it the brown cormorant that is protected - not the black?
My understanding is that for a species to receive protected status they have to be at risk of dying out (we would be so lucky), however, as there are hundreds of thousands / millions of them across Europe predating on our fish stocks - then they clearly aren't at risk of extinction!
Instead of having to apply for restricted licences to cull the odd cormorant, the major angling bodies should be focusing on having then removed from the protected list!
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Post by gillaroobay on Jan 3, 2006 17:39:48 GMT -5
I hope the Lochs fortune takes a turn for the better as it is still one of my favourite places to fish alongside Lough Conn.But i think for the loch to attract the punters back the Bows will have to be stocked in large numbers or the early season fishing will be non existant.But its all down to money if you can't rear your own Bows at the fish farm at the loch because of the eye fluke it will mean buying them in at takeable size or renting a fish farm near enough to grow your own,neither option would be cheap .
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Post by Dryburgh on Jan 4, 2006 8:03:25 GMT -5
With regards cormorants, why are they a protected species? Isn't it the brown cormorant that is protected - not the black? My understanding is that for a species to receive protected status they have to be at risk of dying out (we would be so lucky), however, as there are hundreds of thousands / millions of them across Europe predating on our fish stocks - then they clearly aren't at risk of extinction! Instead of having to apply for restricted licences to cull the odd cormorant, the major angling bodies should be focusing on having then removed from the protected list! Brown Cormorant! Never heard of them. Are you sure that you don’t mean something else, failing that the juveniles are brown. All birds are protected in the UK. However there is provision to shoot certain species under what is called the open General licence to protect public health, public safety, fisheries or inland waters, crops etc. Cormorants are not currently on that list. The RSPB estimates 16000 birds in the UK. They also maintain that they do no serious damage to fisheries.
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Post by mantog on Jan 5, 2006 19:48:55 GMT -5
Does anyone have anymore info on the second world war aircraft found in Loch Leven (I believe secretary mentioned them) - tried googling for more details but nothing doing.
Mantog
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