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Post by billybass on Apr 28, 2006 3:29:34 GMT -5
I have been buzzer fishing these last few weeks using a point fly and one dropper under a bung. In terms of casting everything goes out and turns over fine, the only problem is that once retrieved the top dropper has twisted round the line. Any ideas on how i stop this? I dont seem to have any problems when using lures and blobs etc. I also thought it might be something to do with the curved kamasan hooks? I tried swithching the dropper buzzer to one tied on a B175 and same problem, then i wondered is the point fly (a grubber) twisting when i cast? Any help in untwisting my buzzers  ? |
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Post by Wiremill on Apr 28, 2006 4:29:33 GMT -5
I don't think you can ever get away from some twisting, but try using a stiffer leader material like fulling mill flurocarbon. It helps the droppers to stand out from the main line, especially when fishing buzzers or small wets. If you are using bigger flies/lures on the droppers, they are less prone to tangling as the extra weight usually holds then further away anyway.
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Post by billybass on Apr 28, 2006 5:31:13 GMT -5
Im using riverge grand max, is that softer than the fulling mill maybe?
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Post by Dapper on Apr 28, 2006 5:42:58 GMT -5
Use the New Zealand method for your droppers.  Dapper <*)))))< |
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Post by Countryboy on Apr 28, 2006 5:56:10 GMT -5
"Dropper Tangles" A fact of life I reckon  C.B |
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Post by Duncan on Apr 28, 2006 6:01:46 GMT -5
Use 5lb/6lb drennan sub surface green......don't forget to take the shine off any leader by running some mud up and down before you start fishing.
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Post by billybass on Apr 28, 2006 6:28:27 GMT -5
"Dropper Tangles" A fact of life I reckon C.B Obviously they are gonna tangle, its just it seems to happen more with buzzers than anything else, like they generate more line twist  |
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Post by jan on Apr 28, 2006 6:29:27 GMT -5
are you using offset hooks?
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Post by Cothi on Apr 28, 2006 6:55:12 GMT -5
Your droppers could be too long. Try tying them shorter.
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Post by Charlie on Apr 28, 2006 8:01:56 GMT -5
Riverge is disastrous - very soft, fine and intolerant of either intentional or unintentional knots. I used to have lots of snap offs when I used it.
I now use Lureflash Cobra and that, Fulling Mill or Airflo are much more durable.
Charlie
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Post by mesajoe on Apr 28, 2006 8:52:11 GMT -5
I'm using Fulling Mill for droppers as it is much stiffer than Riverege, so it suits droppers better. I have tried using alternative knots to a two or three turn water knot for droppers, but the stiffness of the line made a much greater difference..
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Post by Countryboy on Apr 28, 2006 10:12:10 GMT -5
Your droppers could be too long. Try tying them shorter. That's a major factor IMHO.. I like using longish droppers 6" or so but find the tangles hard to avoid. If I cut the length down to 4" very few problems  C.B |
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Post by edd on Apr 28, 2006 16:49:14 GMT -5
I find tying the leader backward`s and keeping the droppers fairly short helps alot on rivers.
I get alot less tangle from the droppers then tying the leader in the normal fashion.
Regards.
edd.
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Post by diogg on Apr 28, 2006 17:10:39 GMT -5
edd
What do you mean by 'tying the leader backwards'? (Sorry if I'm being thick!)
Dave
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Post by billybass on Apr 28, 2006 17:16:58 GMT -5
are you using offset hooks? Offset hooks have been involved when etting these tangles Jan. I fished today, used a b175 buzzer and a small diawl bach on the top dropper, only one tangle, 7 rainbows and a nice brownie, although i think having 2 offset hooks didnt help, todays setup worked great ;D |
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