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Post by Gnat on May 13, 2006 15:56:03 GMT -5
What a load of bollocks, Cothi – if not a liberal sprinkle of faux-naif !
Your guardianship of the English language is admirable but this forum is not the place to correct grammatical or spelling errors. There is absolutely no danger of the English language falling from its tentative height due to the mistakes on here and well you know it.
If, as you say, a polite correction is necessary and justified, then, if the grammar police must, PM the culprits. But correcting openly on this forum appears nothing less than denigration – to me anyway, with my fragile ego!
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Post by MarkH on May 13, 2006 15:58:48 GMT -5
A language is precious and very valuable. It encapsulates culture, history and identity as well as being a means of communication. It has its anomalies and irregularities but, on the whole, it has set rules which are there for very good reason - Spot on Cothi. Capital letters and full stops being a very good example of these rules. It seems that some people just don't use them these days and their messages are difficult to read because of this. My attitude is that is someone can't be bothered to use them then I can't be bothered to read their message.
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Post by rrw35 on May 13, 2006 16:22:04 GMT -5
A language is precious and very valuable. It encapsulates culture, history and identity as well as being a means of communication. It has its anomalies and irregularities but, on the whole, it has set rules which are there for very good reason - to assist in precise communication and to preserve the integrity of the language and those who use it. Assisting politely with repeated spelling and grammatical errors on this Forum (often by PM) is justified and necessary. Doing what one can to promote the proper use of a language is more important than the fragile egos of these posters who you say will be traumatised by such advice. One can only hope that they have the maturity to learn from that advice, improve their communication skills and take it in the spirit that it was given. Yes, we are here to talk about fishing but it would help all of us if we could do so as clearly and unequivocally as possible. By the way Gnat, you have no idea how tolerant I regularly am! As for that US President ....QED Top prize for patronisation Cothi. ;D How dare these peasants taint your reading with grammatical errors.
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Post by Cothi on May 13, 2006 16:35:47 GMT -5
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Silly sods.
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Post by MarkH on May 13, 2006 16:39:19 GMT -5
your rite guys gramer spelling and puntuation dont matter as long as we can all undestand the message its ok theirs no need to use capiol letter full stops grammar or spell correctly or corect typinh eros why bother weall know what were saying who acres is someone uses there insted of their or your instead of you're or could of instead of could have actually we all nite as well use txt spk its the way the english lanwidge is going anyway ;D ;D
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Post by Silver Stoat on May 13, 2006 17:46:29 GMT -5
Cothi,
Although I have the greatest respect for your extensive angling knowledge and more often than not enjoy your humour, I find your constant correcting of other peoples spelling and grammar to be not only condescending in the extreme but, on many occasions, just downright rude.
I doubt that you, or any of the others who insist that only 'correct' English usage is acceptable on these boards, would walk into a pub full of strangers or someones house and criticise their use of English, yet you obviously believe that such anti-social behaviour is acceptable in this place.
This is a public forum open to all to contribute their views in the best way that they can. Some, like yourself, have the ability to do so in a precise and grammatically correct manner whilst others, for whatever reason, may not possess the same level of skill. This is to be expected as in any group of people individual members will have have certain skills and weaknesses. Surely you can accept that it is impolite, even denigrating, to highlight an individuals weakness publicly.
You are often quick to point out what you discern as a pedantic adherence to certain principles or ideas of others ( vis. your assessment of some of the views of a certain Derbyshire angler ). Perhaps a look in the mirror, so to speak, might show a similar degree of pedantic behaviour on your behalf regarding the subject we are now discussing ?
Dave.
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Post by Cothi on May 13, 2006 17:53:41 GMT -5
Dave, I have a very fragile ego and you have just publicly denigrated me. I am mortified. Seriously, you do have a tendency to sermonise albeit in a grammatically correct manner. Well done but do please pipe down. Boring. Anyway, what do I know - it's not even my first language p.s. it's "someone's house" and "individual's weakness".
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Post by 3lbgrayling on May 13, 2006 18:07:14 GMT -5
hahahahaha ;D ;D ;D.love it.
jim
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Post by Paul Boote on May 13, 2006 18:20:51 GMT -5
Note for those readers innocent of the facts (as most are, then and even now, in British Angling):
Silver Stoat, in due season, fishes regularly (and successfully) on a very fine sea-trout river in mid Wales.
Cothi, however, finding himself at present sitting in an albeit warm and probably picturesque chunk of the Caribbean, occasionally 'worse' for a measure or three of the local rum (by his own admission), clearly and dearly wants to be doing the same (but, owing to his circumstances, cannot) and, therefore, is often "prickly", out of (possibly, just, etc, understandable) frustration and envy...
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Post by ben wynde on May 13, 2006 18:33:39 GMT -5
Josh dude - don't worry too much about the old spelling and grammar. Last time I looked there were (did I get the last two words right?) only five marks available on the GCSE english paper for spelling and grammar. SPAG for short!
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Post by Silver Stoat on May 13, 2006 18:56:06 GMT -5
Dave, I have a very fragile ego .... And a very short memory. p.s. it's "someone's house" and "individual's weakness". A nice attempt at the feinted pass though, but, from my first post on this topic : " well, nobody's perfect ". The older I get the more I appreciate just how true that is - I know that I am not Also : A language is precious and very valuable. It encapsulates culture, history and identity as well as being a means of communication. It has its anomalies and irregularities but, on the whole, it has set rules which are there for very good reason - to assist in precise communication and to preserve the integrity of the language and those who use it. Assisting politely with repeated spelling and grammatical errors on this Forum (often by PM) is justified and necessary. Doing what one can to promote the proper use of a language is more important than the fragile egos of these posters who you say will be traumatised by such advice. One can only hope that they have the maturity to learn from that advice, improve their communication skills and take it in the spirit that it was given. And you accuse me of sermonising ?? Dave.
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Post by Cothi on May 13, 2006 19:49:12 GMT -5
Dave, I can't make head or tail of your last post. The post by me about preserving the language was a spoof - what else could it have been? For goodness sake, don't take yourself so seriously. I am joking here and you are being so denigrating and critical that, extending your example, I might never be able to post, nay even talk again, so destroyed am I by your criticism. Furthermore, now that you have Mr. Boote in your camp, I am totally outranked for clarity of exposition and thus really must watch my Ps and Qs! Dave, chill! p.s. Nice to hear from you Paul, unprovoked interjection but as Sabu would say - "Salaams Sahib Bootie".
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Post by Silver Stoat on May 14, 2006 3:21:38 GMT -5
Dave, I can't make head or tail of your last post. That's unusual for you, Dai. I had left plenty of spaces ..... between the lines. .. :-) Dave.
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Post by Braveheart on May 14, 2006 16:17:27 GMT -5
After extensive research, including documental reports and eye witness accounts, I am pleased to say I have, at last, found Cothi's first ever post on this forum...........
Cothi: What's this, then? "Romanes eunt domus"? People called Romanes, they go, the house? Brian: It says, "Romans go home. " Cothi: No it doesn't ! What's the latin for "Roman"? Come on, come on ! Brian: Er, "Romanus" ! Cothi: Vocative plural of "Romanus" is? Brian: Er, er, "Romani" ! Cothi: "Eunt"? What is "eunt"? Conjugate the verb, "to go" ! Brian: Er, "Ire". Er, "eo", "is", "it", "imus", "itis", "eunt". Cothi: So, "eunt" is...? Brian: Third person plural present indicative, "they go". Cothi: But, "Romans, go home" is an order. So you must use...? Brian: Aaagh ! The imperative ! Cothi: Which is...? Brian: Aaaagh ! Er, er, "i" ! Cothi: How many Romans? Brian: Aaaaagh ! Plural, plural, er, "ite" ! Cothi: "Domus"? Nominative? "Go home" is motion towards, isn't it? Brian: Dative ! Brian: Aaagh ! Not the dative, not the dative ! Er, er, accusative, "Domum" ! Cothi: But "Domus" takes the locative, which is...? Brian: Er, "Domum" ! Cothi: Understand? Now, write it out a hundred times.
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Post by BrianYates on May 14, 2006 17:00:10 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D nice one Braveheart
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