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Post by camshy on Sept 27, 2005 22:25:46 GMT -5
Hi Davy, first post mate. The boys from Strathleven Fly Fishers would be up for it. We were fortunate enough to make it to the TFEO final it cost us a few quid to get there also, you know how tight Rab is . Good luck if you manage it . I'm sure it will be well supported if you have anything to do with it
CAMPBELL
PS ...WELL DONE ON THE RIVERS.... WHAT A GUY
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Post by Ironblue on Sept 28, 2005 2:06:47 GMT -5
It's a good idea. Why not just debar Blobs and Boobies and any foam? If you can hang flies under another fly then it's difficult to stop the bung. I feel that not to have a time bonus is a minus as there may be times when it is hard to winkle out enough better fish with skill to win. And that is the objective of a competition. But would accept it makes it more 'laid back'. Perhaps you could make it floating line only - Now that would be interesting.
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Post by Dog on Sept 28, 2005 3:05:33 GMT -5
It's an excellent idea. I would be concerned though that if it goes down the 'purist' route - floating line only, no boobies, no bungs etc - then it would be making the task of getting this comp off the ground even more difficult. It would be very restricting for a lot of teams. I don't think it should go that way personally. It is nice to think that it could work, and yes, I'm sure people who moved away from the comp scene would come back, but I don't think in enough numbers.
If it was run as a Team Comp as we know it at the moment - boobies allowed, not just floating line only - it will do really well. If it is a 6 man comp, I will definitely have a team, if it is 4 man, I think we would have two teams. I am sure that I could drum up some more support from our club too, in addition to the team or teams that I will get together. It will get support, but not if you make it too'rulesy'.
There is lots to be discussed, but my opinion, for what it's worth, is that the best idea is to run another comp in a similar mould to The Anglian, but with reduced costs. That would do it I reckon.
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Post by Daver on Sept 28, 2005 3:31:07 GMT -5
Lo Dog,
the only thing that sticks in our throats is the bung, thats it m8. what did people do before the bung they used their touch to catch fish, feeling its called. booby's are fine but you are right a great deal of thought has to do into it, but it is possible if you have the right attitude in the organisers. I beleive we do, the win is the most important thing.
cheers
Dave
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Post by Gillaroo on Sept 28, 2005 3:41:06 GMT -5
Excellent idea - we can do 2 teams of four - wanna fish for the Buccaneers Martin - we'll make you captain if you wish!
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Post by simmo on Sept 28, 2005 3:58:37 GMT -5
hi simmo.if you go down the c+r after a set no of fish,with a weight per fish returned,would this not eliminate the problem you describe. jim Spot on Jim ;D
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Post by Dog on Sept 28, 2005 4:04:37 GMT -5
Dave - I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I have never used a bung myself, and not really come across it much with the comps in Wales. However, I would hate to see you guys get something in place and then find that ineterest was not what it needs to be. I would have no problem whatsoever with a 'No Bungs Comp', as it wouldn't make any difference to me or my lot.
I think it is great, and you could really do something excellent here. You guys do have the right attitude - you can make it work I'm sure.
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Post by flyfisher1 on Sept 28, 2005 6:34:48 GMT -5
Good idea to get another comp going where participants can satisfy themselves as to where the money is going. As for the rules - where do you stop? Surely the adoption of international rules would be best. Should TFEO and AW matches continue next season then I just wonder if there will be enough anglers around to consider entering three comps? You will be spreading the entry more thinly across the three matches unless you can attract 'new' teams. That said, I would be interested though. Good luck.
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Post by osprey on Sept 28, 2005 11:22:35 GMT -5
Me and my mates wood enter a team,we was hacked off with the Tfeo in scotland when the organiser didnt come and sent a couple of subs. Also no results on website
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Post by captain on Sept 28, 2005 11:28:57 GMT -5
Excellent idea - we can do 2 teams of four - wanna fish for the Buccaneers Martin - we'll make you captain if you wish! Unfortunately, my 'last' competition with Yamaha was indeed my 'last'..... Thanks for the kind offer ;D Right chaps. We are trying to get some positive response from forum members.. please try to understand, this comp 'shall' be run to International rules..first and foremost. The Bung issue? if any angler needs to resort to using a float to catch fish needs to look closely at what we are trying to achieve here...... Traditional flyfishing... including ethic's! Any fly 'supported' beneath a Bung or Booby shall not be allowed.. PERIOD... if you need to floatfish, then dont enter! Here is an opportunity to get something out what you as anglers 'put in'..... .. I know many good anglers who have stopped comp fishing because of the Bung. I hope to encourage some back. Support this, don't condemn it.
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Post by Dog on Sept 28, 2005 11:31:36 GMT -5
I didn't mean to condemn it. As I said, I haven't ever used one, so it wouldn't affect me and my lot. I was thinking of the bigger picture for you guys who would be putting in all the hard work. I would enter a team either way, I was just thinking that there might be others who wouldn't be so flexible.
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Post by caleyliner on Sept 28, 2005 14:46:46 GMT -5
sounds like a good idea shall put it to our members and see if we can muster a team or two.
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Post by sinktip on Sept 28, 2005 14:56:06 GMT -5
Excellent idea - we can do 2 teams of four - wanna fish for the Buccaneers Martin - we'll make you captain if you wish! Unfortunately, my 'last' competition with Yamaha was indeed my 'last'..... Thanks for the kind offer ;D Right chaps. We are trying to get some positive response from forum members.. please try to understand, this comp 'shall' be run to International rules..first and foremost. The Bung issue? if any angler needs to resort to using a float to catch fish needs to look closely at what we are trying to achieve here...... Traditional flyfishing... including ethic's! Any fly 'supported' beneath a Bung or Booby shall not be allowed.. PERIOD... if you need to floatfish, then dont enter! Here is an opportunity to get something out what you as anglers 'put in'..... .. I know many good anglers who have stopped comp fishing because of the Bung. I hope to encourage some back. Support this, don't condemn it. All the best in this venture and hope it is a winner!
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Post by bushy on Sept 28, 2005 15:33:31 GMT -5
Been reading this thread with great interest, I haven't spoken to the rest of our team yet, though I'm sure they would all be up for it. As has been said, I too feel the prestige of competing against some of the countries best anglers, and doing well, is what motivates most competition anglers - major prizes are unneccessary. I have to admit to some concerns regarding the suggested rules, though no fan myself of the bung method, does this mean that using a booby as a top dropper fly would be illegal? if not, then how do you stop anyone fishing buzzers / nymphs further down the cast, especially if these are not being fished static? I can't see how this is going to be policed effectively. Also, when Anglian Water took over the running of the Hardy's comp, it was fantastic to see the organisers actually asking the competitors exactly what it was they wanted from their competition, instead of being dictated to as regards prizes / rules etc. I really hope this competition as suggested does get off the ground, though I would respectively ask those that will be involved in the organisation of this comp to follow the lead set by AW and ask the anglers themselves how they would like to see the comp run. If the Fees / rules / prizes etc are acceptable to the majority of those competing - then I'm sure it'll be a success! - Very best of luck.
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Post by Ironblue on Sept 28, 2005 15:43:39 GMT -5
If you can't support flies under a fly then how can you have the washing line? However I honestly cannot see a problem in a comp that excludes the blob, Booby and bung. The competition calender is very full for a lot of teams but if it brings in the numbers then all the better. Good luck with it - I still think it's a great idea though.
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