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Post by Gander on Feb 13, 2006 5:38:37 GMT -5
I nipped into a local trout fishery on the weekend to enquire about having a go at the pike in there during the summer.
The fishery manager informed me that they had been thinking about opening up to this type of fishing, however he also stipulated that any fish caught would have to be killed.
I suggested it would be better to leave the bigger fish in the water, as they would be a better way of controlling jack pike and perch numbers, but the answer I got was that it would be better to have no pike in the water at all.
Initially I agreed that I would kill all I caught, but now I am having second thoughts at fishing the place at all. Obviously it is up to the manager to adopt whatever policy he sees fit for the water, but I am not too sure I want to help him enforce this one.
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Post by Trout on Feb 13, 2006 7:24:44 GMT -5
Same with me Gander. Bristol Water have a "all pike caught must be killed" on Blagdon lake. you are not allowed to catch them intensionaly, but i, and others have caught them on various flies. I don't want to kill the pike as i like catching them as much as i do trout. And i espesialy dont want to kill any larger ones over 5lb. But we have been asked to do it so i supose i don't have any choice. I could slip them back, but i doubt i will  |
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Post by johnmac on Feb 13, 2006 7:45:41 GMT -5
Im not for killing something just for the sake of it. I'd also agree with your idea of leaving the big pike to help clean up the coarse fish and so on. Personally i dont mind at all if i catch a Pike on the fly.... as long as im not catching more Pike than Trout!
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Post by ChrisNicholls on Feb 13, 2006 7:55:06 GMT -5
Bewl has a similar policy on pike, all fish caught must be killed and this means ALL fish caught, trout, pike ,perch, roach etc.
I went on one of the pike fishing days there in November with Chris and strangely the rules then stated that all pike caught must be returned alive, work that one out.
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Post by Allrounder on Feb 13, 2006 15:14:13 GMT -5
Like Gander and trout, I have issues with killing pike and I sincerely hope I don't catch one at Blagdon this year. If I do, then I will remove it because that was one of the conditions I accepted as a result of taking out a season ticket. But it will be with a heavy heart.  Allrounder ;D |
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Post by goldfish on Feb 13, 2006 15:23:05 GMT -5
107 pike last year ;D, all managed to slip out of my hands and back into the water before I could kill them.  I have informed the fishery I will not kill pike until the fishery management kill off the cormorants and ospreys  No problem with obtaining a 2006 ticket ;D |
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Post by chub1 on Feb 13, 2006 16:36:20 GMT -5
107 pike last year ;D, all managed to slip out of my hands and back into the water before I could kill them. I have informed the fishery I will not kill pike until the fishery management kill off the cormorants and ospreys No problem with obtaining a 2006 ticket ;D Like it ;D |
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Post by Paul Boote on Feb 13, 2006 17:19:19 GMT -5
107 pike last year ;D, all managed to slip out of my hands and back into the water before I could kill them. Just like the several thousand chalkstream grayling that I caught for free until wise, conservation-minded owners realised there was a profit to be made from them. |
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Post by aldie on Feb 13, 2006 18:09:17 GMT -5
Would not kill any fish or animal for no reason. Have you ever tasted Pike? Its was a long time ago but im sure it tasted like chicken!  Steve |
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Post by richardw on Feb 14, 2006 5:05:26 GMT -5
107 pike last year ;D, all managed to slip out of my hands and back into the water before I could kill them. I have informed the fishery I will not kill pike until the fishery management kill off the cormorants and ospreys No problem with obtaining a 2006 ticket ;D Leave the ospreys! Their favourite prey are pike of jack sizes. Pike have a habit of hanging motionless quite near the surface. Once spotted by the ospreys they are much easier to catch than trout and salmon, which move about rather more than pike. richard |
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Post by Sewinbasher on Feb 14, 2006 6:22:39 GMT -5
The best solution is for a fishery to have no pike but unfortunately once in they are almost impossible to eradicate. Given that unfortunatel situation the best policy is to leave the big pike as they will control the jacks.
I would shoot every cormorant on sight if I could but I'd never shoot an osprey. They are a bit like otters, they take relatively few fish and I'd rather sacrifice a few fish and see these lovely creatures.
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Post by worcesterhibby on Feb 14, 2006 10:53:54 GMT -5
I'm with you there Aldie... but, having tasted Stewart and MickLen's perch at the eyebrook social last year I am *really* hoping I catch a few at Bewl this year! I'd also quite happily eat a pike from a large water - if the rules state that they must be killed then so be it. (Have "dropped" a nice roach before I managed to clonk it though!) i was informed by a local fishery some years back that I should kill any Pike I caught and I had 3 that year biggest about 6lb, i didn't want to break the rules, so I ate them all, at least that way they don't go to waste...rather nice wrapped in foil and baked with cider and apples!!  |
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Post by rrw35 on Feb 14, 2006 12:36:02 GMT -5
I heard from a fishery scientist, that if you kill all the big ones, you end up with an explosion of jack pike.
The big ones keep the population under control.
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Post by Trout on Feb 14, 2006 13:00:36 GMT -5
I heard from a fishery scientist, that if you kill all the big ones, you end up with an explosion of jack pike. The big ones keep the population under control. Thats what i would have thought. ALl the eggs hatch, most of the fry are eated by the bigger pike. Take away the bigger pike and nothing eats the pike fry. The smaller pike grow and you have a bigger problem than you started with |
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Post by Sewinbasher on Feb 14, 2006 13:35:50 GMT -5
That's it! Its why virtually all the trout lakes with well established pike populations insist on the big ones going back.
I was talking to a warden at Llandegfedd a few years before they opened it up for piking and he was telling me that they were operating a winter pike trapping programme and all pike caught were removed and in some cases stocked into Welsh Waters mixed fisheries such as Pontiscill. A number of 40lb+ fish were moved in this way each Winter for about four years in a row.
The result was a virtual explosion of jacks so they started returning the big fish and killing the jacks and got some sort of control on the situation.
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