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Post by goldfish on Feb 14, 2006 17:06:18 GMT -5
Sorry about the earlier post.
I'm not condoning shooting Ospreys
They taste rubbish ;D
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Post by birdsnest on Feb 17, 2006 6:13:55 GMT -5
Killing pike in game waters seems very archaic to me. Many of the waters I fish have a head of pike. In fact a lot of these waters open for pike fishing in the winter. I don't see any problem. It is a rare day that I blank and quite often get my limit (mind you I love to catch pike as well!!)
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Post by jat on Feb 28, 2006 9:50:56 GMT -5
i know of a sindicate were a pike of over 30lb was killed to protect the trout. I dont condone it, leave the big ones and if you have to remove the jacks.
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Post by Countryboy on Feb 28, 2006 12:46:07 GMT -5
Like Gander and trout, I have issues with killing pike and I sincerely hope I don't catch one at Blagdon this year. If I do, then I will remove it because that was one of the conditions I accepted as a result of taking out a season ticket. But it will be with a heavy heart. Allrounder ;D Ditto
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Post by dumpy on Feb 28, 2006 20:57:08 GMT -5
Now as a long time course angler it really annoys me when club etc,askes its anglers to cull pike. they are needed for the balance of the aquatic enviroment and were there well before trout, they are not likely to wipe out a polulation of fit trout and by removing them from rivers you cocking up the biodiversity of the river just for sport,something a good angler would not tolerate.If you say NO to this stupid behaviour then the club etc will have to take a good look at what they are trying to acheive. You pay the bills ;D
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Post by birdsnest on Mar 1, 2006 8:48:49 GMT -5
Here, Here Dumpy. I,m with you mate. Birdsnest
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Post by leisuredgentleman on Mar 25, 2006 10:42:07 GMT -5
[ ALl the eggs hatch, most of the fry are eated by the bigger pike. Take away the bigger pike and nothing eats the pike fry. Are the fry not eaten by trout?
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Post by Adz on Mar 26, 2006 13:09:39 GMT -5
Are the fry not eaten by trout? Yes but the jacks aren't, once they reach a certain size. However, big pike frequently take jacks up to a quarter of their own size... thus a 12lB pike will happily munch on 3lB jacks which is far in excess of something even the largest stocked trout would consider. Personally, I don't kill anything I'm not intending to eat and bugger the short sighted regulations. Once in a while I'll take a jack home, but they're damned fiddly to prepare compared with trout, or perch come to that, so they almost invariably 'escape during capture'. Cheers,
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Post by billybass on Apr 12, 2006 9:17:47 GMT -5
Sorry about the earlier post. I'm not condoning shooting Ospreys They taste rubbish ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by maharg on Apr 22, 2006 15:03:45 GMT -5
As an aside,I have heard that these big pike are very delicate and do not suffer any form of rough handling. Much better to have one or two big pike than swarms of jacks. My local canal is overrun with half pounders because people killed all the big ones!
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Post by Allrounder on Apr 23, 2006 10:32:41 GMT -5
I agree with 'natural balance' argument but the problem is that Blagdon never had any pike until very recently and there is no evidence to suggest that the lake was 'out of balance' before they arrived. In fact, some would argue quite the reverse is true. 'Traditional' game anglers who complain that the fishing at Blagdon isn't as good now as it was back in the 'good old days' think they have the found their answer. Its long, green and has a mouth full of sharp teeth. Allrounder ;D
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Post by Adz on Apr 24, 2006 15:46:38 GMT -5
I agree with 'natural balance' argument but the problem is that Blagdon never had any pike until very recently and there is no evidence to suggest that the lake was 'out of balance' before they arrived. Allrounder ;D You're almost certainly right - it wasn't out of balance before and once the pike population settles it won't be out of balance again. However, if we meddle too much with it, then it soon will be and man style! Cheers,
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Post by Hambo on May 15, 2006 16:39:33 GMT -5
I don't see the point of killing large pike. They don't eat well over a certain size and do a good job of keeping down the population of their own kind and sick fish.
Perch are another matter. Firstly they taste pretty good, but if they are caught in deep water will often not survive being hauled up to the surface. Their swim bladders equalise gas pressure through the blood stream and they are only comfortable moving up or down within a 4 foot band in a short period of time.
Some perch anglers reckon some perch will survive if played fast and returned without delay, but it is uncertain which will.
I can recall a couple of occasions in Eyebrook when anglers have caught perch on fast sink lines to over 2lb, returned them and similar sized dead perch being washed up on the shore the next day.
If you can play and release without delay then by all means release them, otherwise you might as well knock them on the head and eat them.
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