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Post by T.P. on Apr 11, 2006 15:45:29 GMT -5
Ever since I started fishing in the UK people keep suggesting I use buzzers. I've been given all sorts from very small and red to very large and green. The problem is I can't catch on them, and worse than that I have no confidence in them and basically never use them.
So I need the idiots guide to using buzzers,
When should I use them?
How should I fish them?
Are there any clues as to which ones will work?
Thanks in advance
T.P.
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Post by notanothersage on Apr 11, 2006 15:53:36 GMT -5
Hi T.P It is just a question of confidence and going to a venue when the fishing is not too hard. Don't get caught up in types of buzzer, size and colour are important but the way they are presented is key. If you want I an give you a detailed approach on the basics and you can try at yoour local place. Phil
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Post by Terry Phillips on Apr 11, 2006 16:06:31 GMT -5
T.P, I here this allot! When should I use them? Best anytime between now and end July when the water temperatures go through the roof and the rainbows get their heads down. But they can work all year round even in winter. How should I fish them? Fish then slow and when you think you are fishing them slow enough, you're probably fishing them too quick so slow it down some more. There is a good guide to buzzer fishing here www.jubileelakes.co.uk/?page=78, you will not find a better buzzer angler than the gentleman who wrote the article so there's some good points in there. One thing that will help is some good quality low diameter copolymer, I tend to use 5lb Rio Powerflex for most of my buzzer fishing. Are there any clues as to which ones will work? Personally I'm a fan of black in a 12/14 with some red tinsel in it somewhere, either as a rib or cheeks. But spooning the fish or looking in the margins for buzzers 'shucks' (empty casing) will give you the best indication. I'm still trying to convert my Father to the art of buzzer fishing, but he's a little impatient with them. If he doesn't catch within 2-3 casts then on go the lures! To build a little confidence you could try fishing a small put and take fishery and fish a couple of them under an indicator. Regards, Terry.
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Post by Charlie on Apr 11, 2006 17:25:57 GMT -5
Jo, They are the easiest things in the world to fish.
Here are my basics to keeping it simple :
1. Find some fish feeding on buzzers (ie don't try this in winter till you are really confident). You should see a few shucks around and birds feeding low over the water is an even better sign.
2. Always use black flexifloss size 10. People talk about "olive", Blakestones, size 14's etc. They have their day but 90% will eat a black size 10.
3. You want them moving very slowly, so either fish side on in a gentle breeze or downwind and retrieve VERY slowly.
4. Just leaving them to do their own thing is pretty good too, and bung aficionados like me do that most of the time but you don't need a bung to do that. Bites are often very confident and you'll see the line go.
5. Find the depth they are taking at ie use three flies spread evenly over the depth of the water and change the rig to get more buzzers in the right plane once you have worked out how deep they are eg swap the point buzzer for a booby, if they are near the top.
6. Give it a TIMED half hour in a given spot, then move on.
Do that all day when they are feeding and I'm sure you will catch plenty.
Charlie
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Post by alan on Apr 11, 2006 18:13:59 GMT -5
Jo, like you I read loads about buzzer fishing and never caught on them so my confidence was zero. Then I guess I learnt the difference between what I thought was slow and what is slow. So now I do fish and catch on buzzers but only resort to them at certain times of year, or when nothing else seems to work.
I must admit that my favourite buzzer has to be a skinny black with fine green hollographic tinsel ribbing in a 12/14. I mainly fish this in hotter weather in the top few inches with a 'saw tooth retrieve' (tweek line back with two fingers, rest 2,3 tweek2,3 etc.) or fish one on a new zealand dropper static or on the 'washing line'. The basics are that on even the coldest day in winter there is usually a small buzzer hatch. Biggest factor is Confidence and sooo slow.
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Post by rad on Apr 12, 2006 6:59:00 GMT -5
T.P- Excellent advice here. The best i can offer is fish them very very very very very slow. Just keep in touch with the line. Vary the retrieve try very slow fig 8 for 5 secs and then let them drop down in the water a bit then repeat. Again the best advice is slow slow slow. Black buzzers have allways worked best from me. Have a look at this artical by Simon Newman on The soldier Palmers site. Its worth a read and gives some excellent advice on Nymphing www.soldierpalmers.co.uk/articles/art9.htm
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Post by Sewinman on Apr 12, 2006 7:14:54 GMT -5
Does anyone use them on rivers?
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Post by Charlie on Apr 12, 2006 7:20:18 GMT -5
That's one of the best pieces I've read in a long time Some great ideas I had not thought of. Thanks Charlie
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Post by Chris on Apr 12, 2006 7:39:02 GMT -5
Does anyone use them on rivers? I had a cracking fish in New Zealand in a backwater with a Suspender Buzzer.
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Post by icj on Apr 13, 2006 2:44:07 GMT -5
hi tj i have been fishing buzzers constantly for the past three seasons now. it is all about confidence. start with a three fly cast with size 12 + 14 size diawl Bach's 14 on droppers with a long fluorocarbon leader fished very slow or static. use diawl Bach's with a small hot spot at the head of the fly usually red yellow green and orange.if you need any more info let me know.
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Post by T.P. on Apr 16, 2006 15:52:00 GMT -5
Thanks for all the advice. Maybe a couple of weeks before I get to put any of this into practice, but I think I'll give it a really good try.
T.P.
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Post by 3lbgrayling on Apr 16, 2006 15:57:07 GMT -5
icj,welcome to the forum hope you can stay awhile jim
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Post by crabacle on Apr 18, 2006 6:32:22 GMT -5
I had a few fish on the Wharfe last year with a black suspender buzzer.
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Post by icj on Apr 18, 2006 12:54:31 GMT -5
if anybody wants help to fishing buzzers or tying them i fish bristol waters and llandegfedd once a week hope some one can show me a few tricks as well.tight lines all.icj.
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Post by newbie2006 on May 8, 2006 3:44:06 GMT -5
brilliant thread
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