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Post by mantog on Apr 28, 2006 19:16:23 GMT -5
Gore-tex itself doesn't need anything doing to it. However, if you buy for example a jacket that is made of goretex, it will also have an outer lining of material which is coated in a water repellent substance. When this outer repellent wears off, water no longer 'beads off' and the jacket will 'wet out' This doesn't mean it leaks but it will make it cold, damp and heavier, all in all unpleasant to wear. When you wash in the Nikwax re-proofing stuff it restores the jacket's ability to shed water off its surface. If you look at the cuffs of a technical gore-tex type jacket you'll probably find they don't shed water as well as rest of jacket, this is because they get clarted in muck all the time and have lost their ability to repel water - they won't leak though.
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Apr 28, 2006 19:21:27 GMT -5
First, Soak the waders in a tub full of water for a day or more. Then just throw them in the washing machine with no detergent at all. Run them through 2 cycles. That may well be enough and since you're just using water, there's no risk whatsoever to the waders. That may well be enough. If they still stink, use a half a tablet of your UK non-bio detgertent. I'm very dubious of using Nikwax type products on Gore-tex. Gore-tex (and other breathable materials) is not the same as other waterproof materials that depend on coatings to keep the water out. Gore-tex never needs to be "conditioned" or re-waterproofed. If your Gore-tex is leaking, it's not like and old Barbour jacket that just needs to be slathered in wax again. It's leaking because there's a hole in it. Grouse Not right Grouse. GoreTex is a membrane that keeps water out, but the membrane has a face fabric (and liner). The face fabric needs treating every now and then so that water beads on it. This stops the face fabric becoming saturated as this seriously compromises how much the Gore-Tex will breath. Nik-Wax make treatments for Gore-Tex and other breathables. It is not, as the name suggests, a wax and is the correct thing to use. |
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Post by The Famous Grouse on Apr 29, 2006 19:20:52 GMT -5
I understand how Gore-tex works, guys. The problem I have with these so-called treatments is this:
To condition synthetic-based fabrics such that water "beads up" involves using something that prevents water droplets from penetrating the synthetic fibers so they cannot be held between the fibers. Anything that does this would do so at the risk of blocking the tiny poures that allow Gore-tex to breathe. You can't have it both ways. If it blocks water from being trapped in the fibers, it also could block the Gore-tex.
I don't find any mention of Gore recommending these products for use with Gore-tex.
Grouse
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Post by flytire on Apr 29, 2006 20:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by alan on Apr 30, 2006 12:31:28 GMT -5
T.P. beat me to the suggestion of Tomato Juice or Bicarbonate of Soda. Thinking further though I thought the Tomato would produce a stain. So I would try sprinkling the smelly bits with Bicarb powder and leave it on for aday or so then rinse with lots of clean water, then possibly repeat the process.
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Post by guideline on Apr 30, 2006 17:53:08 GMT -5
Try using the pre wash from Nikwax its totally odourless. I occasionally wash my waders in this, removes stains and no problems, doesnt affect the breathability or waterproofing, it is meant for breathable garments.
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Post by stevet on Apr 30, 2006 18:40:21 GMT -5
buy a pit bull - train it to kill cats!! ;D If its on your property the neighbours have no come back! I mean really, would they like it if you pissed all over their gear!?
Not very helpful i know but tom cat piss is a noxious old substance. I've alway preferred the preventative approach anyway!
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Post by Sewinman on May 2, 2006 5:14:09 GMT -5
Great stuff, thanks guys.
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Post by birdsnest on May 2, 2006 8:30:53 GMT -5
I reckon anti-freeze would kill a cat sewinman....................especially if it was a full tin !!!.......birdsnest
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Post by The Famous Grouse on May 2, 2006 9:24:21 GMT -5
All you cat haters are missing the point:
What did the waders smell like that made the cat want to piss on them in the first place?
The people must know.
Grouse
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Post by killipso on May 2, 2006 9:45:43 GMT -5
Could this be the answer!?   Anyway, are the waders actually GORE-TEX? If so, you can wash them with a small amount of detergent and then hang them up to drip dry - preferably where the cat can't get them again!If in doubt, any outdoor shop worth its salt can give advice on this one. |
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Post by stevet on May 2, 2006 9:47:38 GMT -5
Where would you put the peg; on his nose or the cats todger.......!   |
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Post by Sewinman on May 2, 2006 11:12:08 GMT -5
All you cat haters are missing the point: What did the waders smell like that made the cat want to piss on them in the first place? The people must know. Grouse Probably the amount of p8ssy i get. They are not Gore-Tex, i fished in them for 3 days and they smelt great but that may be becuase I smelt awful too. Going to stick them in the washing machine on a low heat with a non-bio tab. p.s. anyone tried cat meat? |
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Post by The Famous Grouse on May 2, 2006 18:24:06 GMT -5
All you cat haters are missing the point: What did the waders smell like that made the cat want to piss on them in the first place? The people must know. Grouse Probably the amount of p8ssy i get. They are not Gore-Tex, i fished in them for 3 days and they smelt great but that may be becuase I smelt awful too. Going to stick them in the washing machine on a low heat with a non-bio tab. p.s. anyone tried cat meat? Hmmm. If it's leaving a rotten smell in your waders, Sewinman, I'd suggest switching your brand. So to speak. Cat meat? It tastes like chicken. Everything that's not pork or beef tastes like chicken. OK, now true story. After Cat version 1.0 died a year ago, my wife came to me last October and said we should get Cat 2.0. OK, whatever. So she took me to this New Age animal shelter that a friend of hers had told her about. This shelter is nice in that it's a no-kill shelter and it's privately run. OK, so we were about to go in and Mrs. Grouse turns to me and says, "Right, just so we're clear, you're not to make any jokes." "What? Me? Of course not." "I'm serious. Gretchen told me this shelter is very serious about the wellbeing of their animals." "Right, ok, I'm with you." "So not one joke about cats as food." "Wait, um, ok, not even the old, "Hey this one would be nice. Nice on the grill." And then she clubbed me. C'mon. That was a good one. Typical of English women, no appreciation for really good humor. Grouse |
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Post by Adz on May 3, 2006 19:04:44 GMT -5
p.s. anyone tried cat meat? As far as I know... only you Morgan ;-D |
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