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Post by newbie2006 on May 3, 2006 7:24:51 GMT -5
excellent - will try that technique this saturday. thanks rad
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Post by sgt.colon on May 3, 2006 11:17:52 GMT -5
Newbie, Sounds like you really enjoyed it. I suppose it helps having an old pro there to show you what's best. I will hopefully be trying it again this, Friday. If at first you don't succeed and all that!
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Post by newbie2006 on May 4, 2006 2:52:58 GMT -5
excellent sgt. keep me posted. love to hear how it goes.
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Post by billybass on May 5, 2006 9:18:23 GMT -5
any luck sgt??
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Post by flyfisher100 on May 5, 2006 9:27:12 GMT -5
whats the difference in fishing buzzers static and the main term slowly but how slowly i would need this explained i have tried both methods on many occasions and still never caught on them .
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Post by newbie2006 on May 5, 2006 9:36:31 GMT -5
it's funny, the guy who taught me on the bank the other day just left the buzzer static until a fish showed an interest or was passing (when visible). he then suggested stripping the fly quite fast for a short (2-3 metre) stretch, before leaving it static again. this would catch the fish's attention and then give it the chance to catch up and bite.
so: static - strip - static. when the fish takes the buzzer and turns away with it, to swim away, then strike - not before or you'll just rip it out of its mouth.
worked very well for me. hope it does for you too. essentially when you have made the fish angry with a little fast-paced movement, they tend to bite anything!
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Post by billybass on May 5, 2006 10:45:17 GMT -5
whats the difference in fishing buzzers static and the main term slowly but how slowly i would need this explained i have tried both methods on many occasions and still never caught on them . If you have used both methods without success it may be the depth, size or colour of buzzers you are using, and most likely depth. Last week i was fishing the buzzer under a bung without a touch, i increased the leader length from 8 to 14 ft and bang! 4 fish in 30 mins! All the fish lately have been taken while static, although the breeze means they are not strictly static. Do you tie your own flies flyfisher?
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Post by newbie2006 on May 5, 2006 10:47:59 GMT -5
buzzer size is a really good point billyb - the ones i was using were tiny.
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Post by billybass on May 5, 2006 17:30:18 GMT -5
I have been fishing 10s and 12s, all fish this season have been on size 10 buzzer
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Post by alan on May 5, 2006 18:30:29 GMT -5
I think depth and speed are the key factors. I had a cracking session about 2 weeks back, when casting a goldhead sent fish running away. I ended up with a 2 fly cast: a suspender buzzer on the point and a skinny buzzer on a short dropper (washing line style). Cast out with a side wind and let the wind drift the flies around with the floating line bowed: just wait for the line to straighten and then lift into a fish - the bow in the line works like uptiding in sea fishing or the method in coarse angling, in that the resistance of the bow is enough to set the hook.
When mirror calm and no wind a two finger retieve with long pause works well as it causes the buzzer to trace a 'saw tooth pattern' in the water that simmulates a buzzer rising to the surface to hatch.
The trick is to keep any retrieve really slow, literally inch pause 2,3, inch etc. If you do not get takes fish slower and slower. If still not working get out with someone that catches on buzzers annd watch them.
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Post by sgt.colon on May 6, 2006 4:58:54 GMT -5
Well, I tried it again yesterday but still nothing! Is there a certain depth that you need to fish too? The place I go is about 10 foot deep. What length of leader should I be using and how do I know how deep I'm going? Thanks
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Post by alan on May 6, 2006 5:21:27 GMT -5
The depth at which you are fishing is controlled by length of leader and weight of fly combined with retrieve speed so with a goldbead on the point of a 10 foot leader you are probably under normal retieve fishing about 5 ft depth and droppers will fish the intermediate depths - If fishing a sacrificed G.B. static the weighted fly will be on bottomm with the droppers fishing at depth between. On the Washing Line a Booby or other large buyant fly on the point and floatting line will leave your fly at a depth equal to the length of dropper.
When to fish at which depth? Well that is where 'water craft' comes into play: so if really bright the fish may be down, once the air temperature picks up and you get a hatch the swalllows may be swooping over the water so use the washing line. Generally, as trout are designed to look up for food it is necessary to fish at or above the depth at which the fish are cruising. Recently the trout were stirring up the silt to create a little cloud in a spring fed lake - this pointed to them being on bloodworm (the early part of the bloodworm cycle). Start up and gradually work down to takes then stay there until the action stops.
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Post by Charlie on May 6, 2006 5:26:07 GMT -5
flyforums.proboards53.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=stillwater&thread=1144788329&page=1Take a look at my post and point number one - find some fish feeding on buzzers - probably the most important prerequisite ;D It may be that the fish you are trying for are just not on buzzers, you would see them coming off and shucks in the margins. Personally, if I'm fishing buzzers and don't get a bite in half an hour, then I try something else. If they are on them and following our advice you'll catch pretty quickly. Charlie
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Post by newbie2006 on May 8, 2006 3:47:27 GMT -5
sgt - I'm really sorry to hear you drew a blank again this weekend. i got two beauties from size ten black buzzer cast right over the fish and then retrieved quite quick fast past them - they snapped it right up with a tremendously hard 'take'.
keep on reading all the advice and do give it another go. buzzer fishing really is worth having within your arsenal of styles - i really recommned you perservere if you posssibly can. i promise, the moment you hook your first fish with a buzzer, it'll all seem worth it.
tight lines mate.
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Post by sgt.colon on May 8, 2006 5:50:08 GMT -5
Glad you had success, Newbie. I don't give up that easily and the thought of getting one on a buzzer still excites me (why does that sound sad! ) so next time I go fishing, I will be back on the buzzers. I did leave with 2 though by Zonker. ;D
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