fishing in spain

[wigger01]

I am going to Javea Spain in September and would like to know if anyone knows of places to fish in this area, licenses and permits required and best flies to use. I may also fish for carp and catfish so any info on these would also be helpful.

[wigger01]

What about fishing a hairwing in the coastal sea's, anything please...

[stylie]

Wigger ,

I posted a similar theme on this website and a few other websites,,but its something folks just didnt seem to know a lot about . I was in Valencia about a month ago and i saw a lot of guys fishing along the beach's using small bait fish and throwing it out about 50m. I didnt see them catching but there was like 20doing it within a mile of each other. One guy told me he fly fished the sea on holidays and had a few follow's to clousers but not much else info...theres a med forum some where on the net i will post it if i find it

[wigger01]

Cheers stylie, if you could find the forum it would be an advantage...

[Cicada]

www.medflyfish.com/forumm/

Hope you catch a big one, Wigger!

[wigger01]

Thanks for that one Cicada..

[steveL]

wigger01,
I fish when on holidays on the coast north of Alicante (Oropesa near Valencia). I haven't been very successful on the fly, though have had some follows with clousers (I may be the one sylie is referring to). This summer I'll try with deeper lines (intermediates and Teeny shooting heads) with the same clousers and deceivers from the rock walls. The locals fish for Dorada (small sea-bream) and my nephew there one year caught a lot of silvery fish (can't remember the name sorry) in an estuary mouth which I later researched and found they readily take small nymphs, streamers, etc. If your spanish is up to it, this site may be useful www.conmosca.com/pescamosca_espana/Pescamar/indimar.htm
If you will be coarse fishing as well, lots of the embalses (reservoirs) are stocked with black bass (American Largemouth Bass) and these could be targetted from the shore with topwater and deepwater flies (poppers, deceivers, "worm" flies, etc). The Spanish site I mentioned will list the resevoirs, rivers, etc by region.
With regards licensing, there is an online site to get Spanish licenses and all you need to do is send a photocopy of your passport as you won't have a DNI (id card) www.telelicencia.com/
Hope this helps,
Steve

[wigger01]

thanks for them sites steve although my spanish aint the best...
it looks like clousers are the only way i think ive got a chance with..

[steveL]

wigger,
Although there are seabass about ("lubina"), the fish I see most being caught by the shore and rock bait fishermen are dorada. In the 15 years I've been away from Oz (especially in the last 10 or so), fly fishing (for species other than trout) has really taken off. Here's a link to an Oz article for "brim" fishing with flies which may be applicable to the dorada which look very similar. www.flylife.com.au/library/articles/28/28.html Check also the flylife.com.au forum for tips on bream fishing with flies.

Hope this helps,

Buena suerte,

Steve
Wrt the licenses you'll def need it for any coarse fishing in reservoirs, but I can help you there if you want (having a Spanish wife I can speak the lingo now). In the sea, all the local fishermen on the east coast say there's no sea license required - although there is!

[wigger01]

So steve do i need a licence to fish the sea?
And if so could you translate the site for me and give me the info..
I dont want to end up in a jail cell wearing waders...lol

["Squatter"]

Hey Wigger01,

Got back from Spain last Sunday, fished Just North of Valencia on the Ebro delta for Ten days. The Spanish people love their fishing and every man and his dog owns a spinning rod - they unfortunately kill everything they catch................................

I took my 13ft6 sea kayak with me (Ryan air) a story all on it's own - (he he) and managed to fish for 8 days out of the ten. Having seen the guys on the beach nailing tiny little fish I quickly decided that my only hope of getting anything decent was to get away from the crowd, so 6 - 8 mile paddles where the norm.

The area I fished was on the Northern end of the delta - and had large (and I mean Large) areas of flats to wade - sight fishing with a 6 # T3 for marauding blues was on till about 10am when the wind picked up - a quick paddle around the headland into the Delta then allowed for hours of fishing in sheltered areas. Blues, Bass, Mullet and leerfish where the targets. The areas where the locals can get to are fished out, they have lovely big boats that can't get into shallow water (he he) so the flats become almost a marine reserve.

I took my 12-8 and 6 weight rod's- used the big rod on the leerfish which patrol the drop offs at night and dawn - eight weight on the Ocean side of the flats and the six weight (mostly) on the flats and channels in the delta.

Best flies where crease flies tied from size 2"O" to size 4.
Clousers and deceivers worked as well but you may want to take something for the Mullet.

You will need a fishing license and this obtained from a local goverment office on producing ID. No one asked for or checked mine on my visit.

Hope this helps

Regards
Mike

[gregmason]

Respect squatter... I like the sound of the kayak. I often take my 'indestructible' rod case on flights - it's stamped with the words BAZOOKA on the side which make for some interesting looks post 9.11.

Sounds like a bit of creativity paid dividends on the flats. Any photos??? and what are blues?

G

[steveL]

wigger,
Theoretically you do, but all the locals I spoke to said none was required.
On the www.telelicencia.com site, you have to pay 35 euro for a standard sea fishing license (5-15 day delivery) but I think is is for 2 years. You have to go through a few screens and enter address and credit card details (they say that the credit card info is encrypted, rather than through a secure https site) and you will have to fax a photocopy of your passport to them on the number listed. I followed it through up to the point where you enter the c/c details so I can't tell you what happens after that (I can't remember when I did mine). If you still want to go through with it, let me know and I'll send all the input for each field and buttons required.

Steve

Squatter, are the blues bluefish or what aussies call tailor and choppers?

[wigger01]

Be honest now, if i dont buy a licence will i get caught? if the locals dont bother should i? and who enforces the licences? remember i am only going to be wading on the beaches and fishing from rocks, i will stay clear of the harbours me thinks..

[steveL]

if the locals don't buy one, I shouldn't think you'd need to. You could say you were acting on the advice of the locals. I haven't for the past few years, though my intention is to release everything - different if I was going to keep any. Though in rivers and reservoirs you'd need to be more careful, there ARE rangers. I was teaching my nephew how to cast in a mountain trout stream in Madrid last summer and was approached by one. I just said that I didn't know that you needed one, and asked where I could buy a license. He accepted this, but I could have easily been fined - I think my ability to converse helped.