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Post by snappy on Mar 12, 2006 3:34:23 GMT -5
Hi, I'm a fairly competant caster with trout flies, but those big pike flies take some chucking!! I've got a Rozemeijer #9 pike rod with a wf #10 line. Is it me or the rod?? Can anyone recommend a proven pike fly rod please? Thanks
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Post by Me on Mar 12, 2006 4:43:15 GMT -5
YOu need a line with a lot of weight in the forward section of the line. YOu can always trim the front of your line back abit. Also use less bulky flies and double haul like a mother....
Timing is also a bit more critical, make sure line has fully extended behind you and keep the line taught, don't let it sag cause then the forward cast will jar a bit with the big fly.
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Post by snappy on Mar 12, 2006 5:20:16 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Any views on rods?
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muskie
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Post by muskie on Mar 12, 2006 9:29:33 GMT -5
Try and use only flies that are made of synthetic fibres that don't hold water, rather than rabbit strip etc that hold lots of water and make the fly heavy. I found using a proper pike or bass flyline with a proper taper for throwing big flies helped a bit, also lots of practice. The rod should be OK.
I only started fairly recently and made the mistake of trying to cast big 8-12" flies without much success, I then stuck to 5-6" ones until I could cast them reasonably. I still can't chuck the big ones too far now, but I'm getting better .............. slowly.
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Post by riffler on Mar 12, 2006 15:37:50 GMT -5
Hello Snappy, a word of caution.
If you are casting pike bunnies or 6" synthetic flies, take care not to over do it.
I have been flycasting for about 5 years now but a while back a single afternoon trying to cast these flies on an 8wt with a 9.5 SageXP landed me with tennis elbow.
The big synthetics are not very aerodynamic and the pike bunnies can be like trying to cast a chammy leather.
During the session my elbow felt tired and a little sore but it wasn't until the next day that the problems kicked in. At it's worst I could not lift my hand from my side to turn a chest height door knob, or even lift my hand from horizontal onto my body after a nights kip.
It took several physio sessions and 5 months before I could cast comfortably again. Still get twinges now, 18 months later.
Turns out I'd have been better off with the softer 10 wt I chose to leave at home that day.
Riffler.
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Pat H
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Post by Pat H on Mar 12, 2006 18:30:17 GMT -5
The thing is Steve, the bunnies actually WORK. I know what you mean though, they can be hard work.
As for rods, my Redington Wayfarers 8# and 10# work fine for me.
Pat H
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Post by snappy on Mar 13, 2006 3:39:27 GMT -5
Thanks to you all. I have now trimmed a few feet off the front of the fly line. I knew I'd be able to fix a new leader loop back on............well, here we are 12 hours later and I still haven't managed it! Any ideas please???!!!!! Thanks.
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Post by CCAS on Mar 13, 2006 8:21:09 GMT -5
Snappy,
Just make a loop at the end and use a nail not to secure it. Then you can make loop to loop connections with your leader Material.
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Post by snappy on Mar 13, 2006 8:41:04 GMT -5
Once again, thanks to all! Just been and had a few casts.....taking a few feet off the fly line has made a big difference. Might wait until it's stopped snowing to give it a proper try..... Tight lines.
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Post by jrt on Mar 13, 2006 10:02:06 GMT -5
Belgium cast with a rod that isn't ultra fast. Keep the stroke as smooth as possible and minimise false casts.
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Hans
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Post by Hans on Mar 16, 2006 12:06:02 GMT -5
try to shorten your leader. when I fish with the big pike streamers my leader is approx 3 ft long. give it a try.... good luck Hans.
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Mar 16, 2006 16:51:47 GMT -5
It's essential to keep tension in the line throughout the cast. Any slack line will create a 'thunk' that you will feel. Slow down and concentrate on apply smooth power during the cast. But pike fly casting is rarely pretty
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