T.Z.
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Post by T.Z. on Feb 9, 2006 9:47:26 GMT -5
Pulling it is for me as well. After a rough start with a badly teached sort of the Austrian style, which is great when teached right, I learned flip-flop from the man himself. Very easy for a beginner I think when there are no other methods engraved in the famous muscle memory.
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Post by mikeflyfishing on Feb 9, 2006 10:16:08 GMT -5
Pulling is easy to learn and do. On the backcast simply raise your hand so that at the stop your hand is alongside your ear with the rod vertical. (this means that you have lifted your elbow) For the forward cast simply lower your elbow back to your side. If you do this you have pulled the rod down on the forward cast and not pushed it forward.
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Post by Clydesider on Feb 9, 2006 11:17:17 GMT -5
Pulling is easy to learn and do. On the backcast simply raise your hand so that at the stop your hand is alongside your ear with the rod vertical. (this means that you have lifted your elbow) For the forward cast simply lower your elbow back to your side. If you do this you have pulled the rod down on the forward cast and not pushed it forward. I think that's something of an oversimplification, Mike. Your description contains no detail of how the horizontal movement of the rod tip is achieved.
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Post by rrw35 on Feb 9, 2006 13:31:47 GMT -5
Clydesider, Its a strange one, the rod does seem to be in a narrower arc than normal. The line speed when pulling seems to be higher than when pushing. Mikeflyfishing has described it fairly well, but you pull down, rather than lower the elbow. When you practice it, you will get the feel for it. The line seems to stay higher on the forward cast, and i find you get fewer tailing loops using the pulling method. Somethings going wrong here with all these "sensible" replies..
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Post by Clydesider on Feb 10, 2006 4:05:10 GMT -5
Cheers, Ryan.
Who needs Berlin, eh? ;D
I'm actually comfortable with the theory of the mechanics behind pulling vs pushing. I just need to train the old muscle memory to get the technique right.
My responses above are not really questions for my own benefit, but more in order to facilitate further discussion on this interesting topic. Something that you have kindly contributed to.
Thanks again.
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Post by rrw35 on Feb 10, 2006 5:11:24 GMT -5
Paul Ardens site www.sexyloops.com is THE place for knowing anything you need to know, and more about fly-casting and the mechanics surrounding it. Carl (Berlin) gave outstanding advice on casting here.
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Post by mikeflyfishing on Feb 10, 2006 5:24:19 GMT -5
My comments above were based on a simple pick up and lay down cast with 30 ft of line. You do not need to actually "pull down" on the forward cast. Just let gravity lower the elbow back to your side and this is sufficient to propell the line forward with a tight loop. You must keep the arm bent , if you open the arm you will open the rod arc and form an open loop. Once you are used to this then you can start to "pull" down to shoot line etc.
rrw35 - I used to regiously read every thread in sexyloops - but don't you think it's in danger now of dissappearing up it's own vortex?
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Feb 10, 2006 13:16:09 GMT -5
Cheers, Ryan. Who needs Berlin, eh? ;D I'm actually comfortable with the theory of the mechanics behind pulling vs pushing. I just need to train the old muscle memory to get the technique right. My responses above are not really questions for my own benefit, but more in order to facilitate further discussion on this interesting topic. Something that you have kindly contributed to. Thanks again. Pulling seems to also be a side effect of using a lot of drift. With a long drift it seems the only way to bring the rod back is with a pull.
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Peer
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Post by Peer on Feb 19, 2006 12:36:16 GMT -5
Hi, a good description of the Pull Through Casting Stroke was given by Mel Krieger in the Fly Fisherman Dec. 2005. It is worthwhile to read the full article. Just a short quotation: "In the pull-through casting stroke, the casting hand precedes the the rod tip through most of the casting stroke and the turnover and stop takes place only at the end of the casting stroke. Lay out about 70 feet of fly line on a lawn behind you, fly rod pointing at the fly, and pretend to throw a javelin, turning the rod over only at the very end of the throw. You may be pleasently surprised with this extreme pull-through casting motion." Peer www.springforelle.de
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