Listing of Scottish casting intructors

[Clydesider]

Just found this.

Hope it helps ;D

www.fishscotland.co.uk/pages/guideslist.asp?dom=VisitScotland

[John Gray]

Twenty five quid an hour...... for teaching someone how to cast a fly.... well, well...... is that really a fair day's wage for a fair day's work.... when our hard pressed schoolteachers risk nervous breakdowns for fifteen quid an hour?......something wrong somewhere...... or do fly fishermen have more money than sense?

[Willie Gunn]

And do casting instructors get paid for 10 weeks holidays a year and pensions paid?

I think not please compare like with like £25.00/hour is way to cheap.

[John Gray]

williegunn said:

And do casting instructors get paid for 10 weeks holidays a year and pensions paid?

I think not please compare like with like £25.00/hour is way to cheap.

Like with like...... how many casting instructors work a fifty hour week?

.... and the teachers' pension contributions are deducted from the fifteen pounds an hour, in addition to tax and national insurance deductions..... leaving something like ten pounds income for every hour worked....

[Willie Gunn]

John and the employers contribution to the pension?

If casting instructors could get a 50 hour week the rate would drop. But 4 hours a week does not give a great life style.
Teachers hours must have gone up since I saw them last. 10 hours a day, and 4 of those smoking in the staff room

[John Gray]

You don't know many teachers then, Malcolm....


Let me get this right, Malcolm.... are you saying that, if a man can only get four hours work a week, he should charge more per hour for his labour than a man working forty hours per week?

[sandfly2]

And teachers cannot afford very expensive Range Rovers .

Davy.

[Clydesider]

williegunn said:

...If casting instructors could get a 50 hour week the rate would drop. But 4 hours a week does not give a great life style....

On the other hand, if they reduced their prices, maybe they'd get more bookings.

I'm the only person I actually know who has gone for casting lessons. I found it useful, but everyone else I fish with (some truly excellent and successful anglers among them) ask questions like "Is that no' a waste o' money?" or "Whit d'ye want tate dae that fur?"

Casting lessons, largely due to the cost involved therein, are viewed by the working class majority (who also happen to be the fly fishing majority in my part of the world) as a luxury reserved for visiting moneyed holiday makers who have money to burn.

As long as the costs stay the same, so will this attitude.

[Willie Gunn]

johngray said:

Let me get this right, Malcolm.... are you saying that, if a man can only get four hours work a week, he should charge more per hour for his labour than a man working forty hours per week?

If he wants to take home the same money yes.

Looking at it from the other side school teachers are " two a penny" but casting instructors are harder to find. You simply charge what the market can bear.

[Cothi]

williegunn said:

johngray said:

Let me get this right, Malcolm.... are you saying that, if a man can only get four hours work a week, he should charge more per hour for his labour than a man working forty hours per week?

If he wants to take home the same money yes.

Looking at it from the other side school teachers are " two a penny" but casting instructors are harder to find. You simply charge what the market can bear.

But that's just at the moment Willie due to lagged supply response. At those rates it won't be long before the ratios invert. Then Scotland will become a nation of illiterates who can cast. Simple economics man.

[secretary]

Not selling myself as you'll read, I've within the year qualified as level 2 Instructor in Game angling, this is the old stanic award. Anyone interested, weekdays in May I'm doing casting clinics free of charge at loch leven.

It would be of the pier front. If you wanted a boat you would have to pay for that, which, as many know is fairly cheap anyhow. However, any casting is achievable from the pier.

Bookings only though. I've had a fair bit of response on this and as yet it's only through word of mouth. Mind you, never thought of charging £25 an hour.

[Willie Gunn]

cothi said:

Then Scotland will become a nation of illiterates who can cast. Simple economics man.

Wot you mean will become?

[stylie]

Lads i think 25quid is cheap for some advice that u will use the rest of ur life. I dont think a casting instructor gets much repeat business due to the factthey correct the simple faults in one sitting and the customer is off happy. I thought golf and charged 50 euro an hour and my mate is charging 70 euro an hour and business could not be better,,nearly all r repeat clients. So 25quid sounds cheap to me.

stylie

[flyonly2006]

I recently watched one of the instructors on the list give lessons to a couple who had never fished before and they thought it was a fabulous experience. Particularly as the husband of the pair hooked and caught a 3 1/2 rainbow right at the end of the lesson.

They arrived with no knowledge or equipment and went away capable of putting together a fly outfit, including the knots etc. and with the ability to make decent fish taking casts. They also were taught a fair bit about fishing etiquette.

I also concur with the point about the average casting instructors limited working week and I think their charges are very fair and reasonable.

flyonly2006

[Clydesider]

David Bell perchance?

I was gonna take lessons with him at Carman last year, but found someone nearer to home. I'll maybe pop over to take a lesson with David this year to get a different take on it.