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Post by beckster on Nov 17, 2005 17:31:29 GMT -5
When wrapping my green blank i want to use black thread.Would i be better using ordinary thread or ncp thread,if it's the latter where can i get some in the u.k.?
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Post by ScottRods on Nov 17, 2005 20:34:01 GMT -5
NCP thread is probably best. Get gudebrod AA NCP.
Always add a coating of a coat NCP anyway, it creates a nice solid looking wrap which not be at all see through. The nice thing about black is if you wrap it tight, with good quality thread in this manner you can hardly see the individual thread turns. It looks like a single piece of tape.
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Post by Silver Stoat on Nov 18, 2005 5:24:42 GMT -5
ScottRods.
I would go the other way if when you say "Always add a coating of a coat NCP anyway.. " you mean give the thread a coating of Colour Preserver.
I think that any thread treated with colour preserver results in a bland and/or pasty looking colour. It always looks like the finished whippings had been given a coat of paint.
Much prefer the translucent effect caused by the resin or varnish soaking the thread as this, to my eyes, gives a more subtle effect.
It's a matter of personal preference really, but if I wanted my whippings to look like tape then I would use tape or just paint over the whippings.
Dave.
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Post by ScottRods on Nov 19, 2005 1:28:03 GMT -5
I don't like a dirty metal foot showing through them. But it's personal choice. Look at the best rods and see how they look.
Check out my photos of the rod finish and see what you think
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Post by Silver Stoat on Nov 19, 2005 6:25:06 GMT -5
As said, it's a personal choice.
If the ring feet are given a coat of nail varnish after they have been ground/filed to a smooth taper, they look OK to me.
With such a vast choice of colours you can, if you wish, choose a colour similar to the darkened thread and then the feet virtually disappear.
Dave.
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Post by ScottRods on Nov 19, 2005 21:19:07 GMT -5
As most of the guides are only coloured using anodising or etch paint, if ground or filed the feet will show bare plain metal.
Still again, it's personal choice. My opinion of factory rods is that the cheap rods have see through wraps because the manufacturer has done a rushed, cheap process.
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Post by ScottRods on Nov 19, 2005 21:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by bloke on Nov 21, 2005 6:50:56 GMT -5
Personally I steer away from colour preserver or at least havn't found a good enough product. If you paint the legs with a black permanent marker and your wraps are good you can hide the leg under the thread.
I also like to use a thin coat of epoxy first that soaks into the thread and bonds the leg to the blank...maybe its because I use single leg snakes perhaps.
Mick
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Post by John Gray on Nov 21, 2005 8:59:07 GMT -5
Like Dave, I prefer the translucent look of the untreated nylon (not NCP) with one or two coats of epoxy varnish, as on the rod below, done using Gudebrod grade A nylon, colour dark green code 5896:  |
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Post by Silver Stoat on Nov 21, 2005 9:59:12 GMT -5
If you paint the legs with a black permanent marker and your wraps are good you can hide the leg under the thread. Permanent markers work OK but I have always used a coloured nail varnish as I said above (reply #4) I have always worried about the ring feet rusting where I have filed them. This is unlikely if the whippings are given a good, complete soaking with resin/varnish but I have seen rust on some of the rods I have had in for repair. Mick, have you thought about using the Forhan 'locking wrap' on the single leg rings ?...........here : www.rodbuilding.org/library/forhan.htmlDave. |
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Post by ScottRods on Nov 22, 2005 20:51:16 GMT -5
The single foot guides I have in the pics I fixed in place with a spot of hotmelt.
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Post by bloke on Nov 25, 2005 11:42:56 GMT -5
Dave
Yes I tried this locking wrap some time ago but wasn't too happy about the end result to be honest....Frankly I have not had a problem with a normal wrap on a single foot guide and I use double snakes for my saltwater and salmon rods which I think need beefing up a bit
Mick
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