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Post by camshy on Mar 28, 2006 22:26:00 GMT -5
Osprey, i think you may find that the original AGM date did not clash with the team get together on the Awe, its not SANA'S fault that it snowed so heavy that day and had to be cancelled
Meiklebin, Wonderful place to be in early Spring i'm sure you would agree. Could'nt agree with you any more, been there twice already, wild and wonderful, a bit bloody cold though
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Post by morris on Mar 29, 2006 11:54:37 GMT -5
oh well just goes to show the sana office bearars don't have a brain cell to rub between them when the president does't even know when the AGM is!!!!!!! even if it was the same day that would be rediculos having them on the same day.
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Post by jhunter on Mar 29, 2006 17:05:23 GMT -5
Once again Morris as i have said earlier on in this thread people gossip without finding out all the facts first. I am actually the chairman and not the president as you suggest and I clearly know when the AGM is. I am proud of my "single" brain cell but I would like to question the brain cell count at your end, as your basic spelling leaves much to be desired. Perhaps you should have stuck in at school. ;D ;D
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Post by fidfish on Mar 29, 2006 21:02:53 GMT -5
Hi Jim
No axe to grind here but looks like pot, kettle black etc. Punctuation and caps, easy to do but in the heat of the moment easily missed and surely not the argument here.
Must admit that I used to attend the SANA AGMs as a club rep. but as I am no longer an office bearer I cannot. I'm a little embarrased that I have not yet taken up individual membership which would allow me to do so. This I think is part of the problem, surely we should be encouraging Scottish anglers to take out individual memberships instead of the much cheaper option of club memberships in order that a bigger voice is heard at AGMs and that the coffers of SANA are increased sufficiently to allow them to be the force that they should be in fighting for the rights of Scottish anglers. I do symphatise with the elected SANA committee members on both the main body and the competition section as they do give up their time and money to be there but the points raised on this thread are obviously upsetting a lot of people and as such should be addressed. I look forward to hearing the outcome of the AGM in due course.
Cheers Kenny
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Post by camshy on Mar 29, 2006 21:33:45 GMT -5
Kenny , i may be wrong but i dont think an individual member can go to the competitions A.G.M. My only gripe about the competiton A.G.M. is that it should be longer there is never enough time at the end to get your say a lot of topics dont get covered in full
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Post by jhunter on Mar 30, 2006 2:15:14 GMT -5
Fidfish I fully appreciate where you are comming from, there are so many issues to be sorted out at the AGM but as per usual time will be against everyone, as there as so many topics and quite rightly everyone wants to have a say. As for Morris he is only on the forum for the wind up and I am just playing along, dont read too much into the banter going back and forth. All the best Jim.
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Post by camshy on Mar 30, 2006 9:57:09 GMT -5
Jim , was that reply to me or kenny about the time shortage
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Post by morris on Mar 30, 2006 12:15:36 GMT -5
well jim bob!!! is the president and chairman not the same! and you did say the wrong day for the agm. To comment on someones spelling errors who is registered DYSLEXIC means that you think it is funny to take the mick out of someone with a disability. i had to work very hard at school to gain my o levels . i'll see you at the agm to sort this out
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Post by 3lbgrayling on Mar 30, 2006 12:26:25 GMT -5
morris,is that a hint of a threat there.i really hope not jim
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Post by secretary on Mar 30, 2006 14:06:51 GMT -5
Good golly, I go away for 10 minutes and your fechtin like dug & poody cat.
Anyway, this isnae a lesson on inglish; os is it.
Ouch who hit ma heed.
Now heres a topic,
Are my wee ears hearing right when they say sana comps is trying to break away from the main body again. Now that should make an interesting AGM!!!!
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Post by northdeeps on Mar 30, 2006 14:49:31 GMT -5
I've been hearing about the competition section breaking away for a few years now, and even herd tell of clandestine meetings - deepest, darkest Perth I think it was - taking place among some of the chosen ones to discuss it all. Anyway, did anybody ever ask me, a paying member, if I agreed with such a break away? Has it ever been discussed in public and a members' consensus sought?
Here's how I see it -and I could very well be wrong. Scottish Anglers National Association (SANA) is recognised as the governing body of the sport of fishing in Scotland and the competition section, which was set up to run the National on behalf of SANA, is part of SANA. If they do manage to break away what endorsements will they get to continue to run our national competition, and from whom will those endorsements come?
It seems to me that this whole debacle is symptomatic of the low standard of people running our organisation; and don't give me this crap about getting involved, this is the biggest closed shop in the country! Sadly, it reflects the fact that the clowns running this organisation can't even agree amongst themselves about how things should move forward for the benefit of its members. Yes, that's right, its members.
The only way we, the punters, will ever get an organisation that befits the name of governing body is when they do away with this unjust system of block voting - something outlawed in politics years ago - and introduce one-member-one-vote.
Jhunter, If you think it befits an official of this organisation to come onto a forum and start name-calling like a twelve year old, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Start listening to what people are saying about you and your lot, put your collective egos to one side and start acting on behalf of your members... NOW!
northdeeps
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Post by jimdoyle1 on Mar 30, 2006 15:37:20 GMT -5
I have always said there should be a wayfor individual members to fish in a qualifier to get through to the final,and possably into the Scotland team. The politics of Sana, and over the years other Scots organiseations are part of the dark arts, I remember when we formed the first pike anglers club, we tried to get funding from the sports council approved assosiation, some hope it was sewn up by those and such as those from the central belt. Where have Sana been over the demise of the loch? This aplies to the competition commitee as well as the main commitee stand up for Scottish anglers, you are the only government recognised body that is supposed to do so. All comp anglers want is a level playing field(well maybe a wee wave!!) and to know that things wont get changed because someone can shout louder than the rest of us. resectfully . jim
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Post by jhunter on Mar 30, 2006 17:38:21 GMT -5
Northdeeps Does this ring a bell While you're at it get a job and have a wash. Now f**k off you piece of garbage and hug a tree or something. Now who are you to criticize me when all thats going on is a good bit of banter.
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Post by jhunter on Mar 30, 2006 17:42:39 GMT -5
Apologies to all that are comming onto this thread but the above statement was posted by northdeeps in another thread, regarding his football team and not a statement from myself.
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Post by hametied on Mar 30, 2006 17:55:48 GMT -5
open entry for national championship is the only fair method, jimdoyle1. the current method means that the champion is actually the national 'club', (using the term club loosely) champion as you have to be in an affiliated club to get through. isnt there already a club championship on the lake?
not being disrespectful to current team, who done brilliant last year by the way, but the english are consistently strong and any silly bugger can enter thier national. at the end of the day the cream should rise to the top but it would give joe public who doesnt have the time to fish his own club comps on a regular basis to aspire to something bigger. my home town has three fly only fishing clubs and none are sana registered. but anyone in these clubs good enough is going to have to fish out of the town with strangers in the hope of making first or second to fish the nationals.
IT CAN NOT BE A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IF THE NATION IS NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER.
or are some of the 'comp club' members afraid of the competition.
Wullie
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