444sl ghost tip 5ft or 15ft version ?

[dorsetdarren]

me again guys . im just about to order a 8 wt 444 sl ghost tip but they do 2 versions a 5 ft sink tip and a 15 ft sink tip which would be more use full for bass of the dorset coast ? why do they do 2 versions ?

[kevzim]

I'd go the 5'...unless you intend fishing a very steeply shelving beach, or one with few snags and obstructions. Just my vho, but then I fish snaggy flat beaches a lot.

[MJB]

I use the 15' version. I can't see a lot of point to the 5' one.

[Berlin]

The 15 ft one is the one to go for. This fishes the fly about 12" down on a fast strip retrieve (deeper with a slower retrieve). This means the fly swims very realistically just below the waves instead of up and down in them.

I use mine for 90% of my SWFF

Cheers,
Carl

[dorsetdarren]

good old boys you lot ,cheers for your advice. 15 ft it is

[Gonzo]

mjb said:

I can't see a lot of point to the 5' one.

The 5' version would work better with surface flies, if you decided to change tactics quickly mid-session. Then again, you may as well switch to a floating line.
If I was buying one, i'd probably go with the 15' version.

[MJB]

gonzo said:

mjb said:

I can't see a lot of point to the 5' one.

The 5' version would work better with surface flies, if you decided to change tactics quickly mid-session.

f*g Ash Lil works a treat on the 15' Steve.

[rrw35]

mjb said:

I use the 15' version. I can't see a lot of point to the 5' one.

Ditto, i have the 15ft one, its a good job. Very slight hinging when casting it, but it sinks well and the main line has zero memory.

[kevzim]

Fair dinkum. I tend to use a floater most of the time on my local shores... if I want a ghost tip I use an airflo polyleader on a floating line. When I use anything other than slow intermediates at low tide I spend most of my time snagged up, even with a fairly rapid retrieve.

I'm intrigued as to the benefit of the fifteen foot ... I see how it is useful with a fast strip, but wouldn't you get the same effect with a slow intermediate?

[MJB]

kevzim said:

I'm intrigued as to the benefit of the fifteen foot ... I see how it is useful with a fast strip, but wouldn't you get the same effect with a slow intermediate?

....but with the line control of a floater.

[Berlin]

As Martin Said, you get a flaoting running line that doesn't tangle (usually) around your feet in the surf, doesn't sink if it falls off the float tube and allows for mending in tide rips. Using an intermediate, once its hit the water, that's pretty much it.

Using the 15 ft also allows you to keep a much tighter line when fishing in the surf than the comarative floater. that sinking section allows you to retrieve with nore "resistance" and so the line can be kept relatively straight to the fly.

When fishing over rough ground the line can be retrieved so that the fly drops in and out of rocks and gullies, where an intermediate would just get tangled by the surf.

The 5 ft version is excellent for fishing Buzzers in very windy conditions and the 5 ft sinking section acts as an anchor slowing down the swing and allowing the flies to sink.

Cheers,
Carl

[kevzim]

Thanks a span for the explanations guys... you've convinced me. A lot of the reason I prefer to fish floaters is precisely because of the benefits you describe. I can see the advantage of the floating running line. Wished for it (in terms of line control and relative lack of tangles) a few times whilst fishing an intermediate at a deeper mark I sometimes visit...

Bugger. Another bit of kit to purchase!
;D

["Squatter"]

Have to agree with the guy's above.

95% of my swffing is done with the 15 foot Ghost tip.

Off the Yak, I sometimes use a "depthfinder" 600 grain 23 foot line with a 80 foot floating runing line (10fps sink rate). This is only to get under the shoal of small bass and into the big bad boy's below.

Regards
Mike

[Gonzo]

gogga said:

This is only to get under the shoal of small bass and into the big bad boy's below.

You're just showing off now! ;D

[dorsetdarren]

if any ones interested a guy is selling 4 (i just bought one now 3 left) of these now on ebay item no 7197847721 for £24.99 free delivery 444sl 15 ft and 5ft version ghost tip in 8 wt and a few other weights as well. just thought you might want to know