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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 11, 2004 8:33:47 GMT -5
11-07-04
The river is getting another 10.5 cmps Kielder release today which is going to last until Wednesday and will hopefully bring some more fresh fish into the system.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 12, 2004 11:21:57 GMT -5
12-07-04 An update of information taken from www.tynefishing.com/ There has been a large run of both salmon and sea trout in the last couple of weeks, something that has been lacking for 3 years due to dry conditions. We know the runs are large due to the amount coming over the weir at Hexham, not due to the sighting of fish as they are keeping low, as the summer fish tend to do. There also seem to be some larger sea trout this year compared to the previous two, which bodes well for keen sea trout anglers such as myself. Unfortunately though the heavy rains forecast for last week turned out to be a bit of a whimper and when the dam dropped off to a 1.5cmps the river dropped right back leaving summer lows and many fishermen disappointed, myself included. I fished on Sunday with Robert Keeney (Gillie) just below the entrance to the Rede and although we did see plenty of clean fish, we were unable to hook. Robert did however land a 10lb salmon and a sea trout in Corbridge the night before on low water, but just before dark. The dam is again releasing at 10.5cmps until Tuesday at 1.30pm and i am expecting some heavy sea trout catches. Fish are now right through the system and below are the catches i have heard of up to and including Thursday At Redeswood Kevin Lee had a great couple of days with 5 salmon 4 around the 12lb mark and two at 10lb, Steven Brown also had a 10lb salmon at Redeswood. David Turner of the Rose pub in Bellingham landed two salmon of 10 & 14lb both very fresh and both on Bellingham AC water. Still on the North Tyne, Andrew Denis had a 16lb salmon at Lee Hall to a toby and he had a 6lb grilse to another spinner at Chollerford on the T.A.S. water. On the lower Tyne Peter Fitzpatrick had 4 & 4lb sea trout on N.E.R.A.C. water, David Simpson of Lanchester had a 15lb salmon and John Johnson also had a 15 pounder. On the South Tyne Steven Hutchinson was at it again with 3 salmon of 19lb, 14lb & 16lb, John Shield took a cracking 8lb sea trout & Robert Keeney had a 5lb sea trout to a size 8 cascade. No other hotel beats were fished last week but Alan Fidling did catch a 14lb salmon at Chester's as well as losing 3 others.
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Post by smoker on Jul 13, 2004 2:29:20 GMT -5
The N.Tyne at Wark is running in fine condition at the moment with the current release improving matters enormously. I got my first fish of the season to fly last night around 5.00pm. I'd only been fishing for 10 minutes when I saw a fish roll, swam my fly in its direction and wham, a lovely lively silver 8lb fish; taken on a size 10 Allies shrimp in the Blindburn pool. This is not the only excitement I've had however, having lost four fish in a row last Wednesday morning between 6-7.00am One of them was a bigun that broke my leader, the fly popped out another just as I was bringing it to the net. The other two were on for about 5 seconds. I was out early this morning (Tuesday July 13th) the water is looking very 'fishy' but nothing doing. I'll be out morning and evening at least during the current release. Good practice for my snake roll if nothing else.... For the last few weeks a number of fish on the Wark angling club water have been falling to spinners with a couple of 15lbers taken and a few in 12 -13 region. Only one or two have been falling to fly but hopefully this will improve from now with more fish obviously moving up. Tight lines to all. Smoker
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Post by smoker on Jul 14, 2004 13:52:36 GMT -5
Well it seems that the fish I caught was the last fish seen or caught on the Wark Angling Club waters. This current release has been a real disappointment. The water is already falling back up here and there has been no sign of fish whatosever all week. By the morning the River will be showing its bare bones again. Like a few others, I've been out every morning and evening through this release and instead of it bringing fish in, as we thought it would, they seem to have vanished. I think we are more dependent upon the Kielder release up here on the N.Tyne than further down river and when there is no release at all at times it feels like fishing in a puddle. What makes it more frustrating is that Kielder is reported to be brim full ! Oh well, we now have to wait until they decide to release some water again, there seems little point fishing when they let the water get so low. I have heard reports of the annual farce of fish trying get over the weir at Hexham and whacking themselves off the piers, or at the very least failing to make it over. When will the EA do something about this ?; the next reports will be of dead fish floating around at Wylam, again. I hope that people are having better luck down on the main Tyne than we are here at the moment. Cheers. Smoker
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Post by smoker on Jul 15, 2004 16:11:26 GMT -5
The next release from Kielder is from Monday 19th @ 7.30pm until the following Thursday 22nd, @ 7.30 pm: 10.5 cmps.
Cheers.
Smoker
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Post by richardw on Jul 15, 2004 16:29:50 GMT -5
This is madness! The river Derwent in Derbyshire has three drinking water reservoirs across its headwaters. The downstream one is Ladybower. Ladybower by law has to release water all the year round and in dry summers it has been the saviour of the Derwent many times. Surely Kielder has to release at least a constant minimum? If it doesn't then it is time to get those individual letters off to your MPs...
richard
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 15, 2004 17:04:07 GMT -5
Richard
You are correct. Kielder normally releases a constant compensation water flow of around 1.5cmps (cubic metres per second).
Every so often (seems to be every week or so at present due to near full water levels within the reservoir and the end of the coarse fish spawning season) they increase the flow to create an artificial spate. This helps keep the fish on the move within the river and most importantly helps encourage them out of the estuary and into the river.
15-07-04
An update of catches (includes other local rivers including the Wear and Tees as well as the Tyne) taken from local press report.
By David Carrick, The Evening Chronicle Members of Bishop Auckland Angling Club hit the jackpot this week with excellent catches from the rivers Wear and Tees.
Bob Cant landed three marvellous sea-trout weighing 11lb 8oz, 8lb 8oz and 5lb on Black and Silver tube flies.
Meanwhile on the Tees, Crook angler Trevor Pearson caught his first-ever salmon of 8lb 8oz also using fly, while John Mabon and Brian Samms landed a 10lb salmon at Egglestone.
On Willington Angling Club waters Ray Elliott landed sea-trout of 8lb and 4lb while J Race caught one of 5lb 8oz and a beautiful fresh-run salmon of 11lb 8oz taken on a Flying C.
Meanwhile, Kelvin Appleby landed an 8lb sea-trout on a Black Flying C at Chester-le-Street.
On Tyneside Anglers Syndicate Waters Callum Mawson landed a very fresh 4lb sea-trout from the River Tyne at Stanley Burn, Wylam, while Newton Aycliffe rod Ritchie Morris bagged three sea-trout in the 4lb range caught off the TAS North Tyne beat using fly.
Nick Chilton, also fishing TAS water, landed two grilse from the Wear weighing in at 4lb 4oz and 4lb 8oz.
He followed this with two sea-trout of 4lb and another of 8lb - all on Flying C's.
Yorkshire rod John Petkus landed a sea-liced 11lb salmon off TAS Border fishings while Jack Coyle, from Birtley, landed a 3lb 8oz sea-trout using worm from the River Till at Doddington.
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Post by smoker on Jul 15, 2004 17:13:06 GMT -5
I think that there is an issue here with Kielder, I must take a picture of the river here at Wark when it is subjected to the normal base flow of 1.5 cmps, I think you would all be shocked, it's like a gravel bed. The only time we can fish here is when there is a 'release' which means also that fish must obviously struggle to get up here. I think the weir at hexham is as much of a concern.
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Post by smoker on Jul 15, 2004 17:17:51 GMT -5
Ladybower by law has to release water all the year round and in dry summers it has been the saviour of the Derwent many times. Surely Kielder has to release at least a constant minimum? richard Richard, what is the base flow that Ladybower has to release by law? Smoker
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 15, 2004 17:29:23 GMT -5
Smoker
In some ways you are probably a little spoilt by having the releases. With out them the fish would not run the North Tyne in any great numbers until there was a good rain water spate. Bare in mind that its the middle of July and we have not had any good rain for a few weeks now so the river is bound to be around summer level. If you were to have a look at the South Tyne around Haltwhistle you would probably find it in an even worse condition than what the North Tyne is on a base compensation flow.
With regards the weir at Hexham, its a know problem for the fish during times of low water, although I seem to recall hearing that some work had been done to improve things here but I maybe wrong.
According to the EA at the Tyne Improvements Association meeting at the end of last season a new fish pass is to be constructed here funded by the Passanger Transport Authority provided they get the go ahead for a new Tyne tunnel. So we have to wait and see what happens.
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Post by richardw on Jul 16, 2004 8:28:05 GMT -5
Richard, what is the base flow that Ladybower has to release by law? Smoker I don't know I spent some time trawling through websites and couldn't find it. I know it exists because I was told by the old reservoir keeper (Li Purnell) before he retired... richard
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Post by smallmouth on Jul 16, 2004 8:58:24 GMT -5
On the headwaters of rivers that were once harnessed to power industry, the minimum flows were often made legally binding at the insistence of mill owners etc, before the reservoirs could be built.
Find out what the guaranteed flows are, and irony of ironies, measures established by the despoiler of the watercourse become it's saviour.......
I don't know how you find out though. I once heard or read mention of Statute books?
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Post by smoker on Jul 16, 2004 14:22:28 GMT -5
You are right about some of this Dave, in that today I went through Haydon Bridge and saw that the South Tyne was in the same condition as the N.Tyne. My problem is not knowing what the N.Tyne was like pre-Kielder, it would be interesting to know; I'll ask some of the older guys in the Club.
Seeing how things are now, if this is typical of how it used to be pre-Kielder then I fail to see how the Hell any fish made it up here....interesting stuff. I've been thinking of getting in touch with Northumbrian Water and asking them what their release poicy is based upon.
How are things 'waterlevelwise' down at the Wylam end Dave, is the water a mere trickle as it is here?
Anyhow, I'm looking forward to an early session on Tuesday morning to see if the evening release on Monday makes a difference to sport.
Cheers.
Smoker
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 17, 2004 3:32:01 GMT -5
Before Kielder the fish would have made it up the North Tyne the same way as they make it up into the upper reaches of the South Tyne and the Rede. They would run on rain water spates then lie up in the deeper 'holding' pools on the river awaiting the next flood.
You would probably be quite suprised about how little water fish require to run esspecially the sea trout.
I was out last night and the lower reaches of the main Tyne are down at summer level at the minute. There have been reports of odd fish moving in off the tides all week and there seems to be a half decent head of fish building up in some of the pools, although a good few of these fish have now been in a while.
The tidal stretch might be the best bet for a fish this weekend, although it was getting hammered last night with four anglers fishing the top tidal pool on the river below Wylam Bridge pool.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jul 19, 2004 11:20:34 GMT -5
19-07-04
It looks like im going to be working away from the area until after the end of the Tyne salmon season.
Is there anyone interested in this thread being kept upto date ?
Also is there anyone willing to keep the thread upto date, as i'm unsure what level of internet access I will have.
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