Hardy Lockfast ferrules

[jmunro]

Hello
I have a 12 foot built cane salmon rod which I'm currently in the process of restoring. I'm unsure of the maker of the rod - though it has Hardy Lockfast joints.

The rod itself is in basically sound condition, and I've removed the varnish. Now, I need to get the lockfast joints off - most of them are a bit shaky, but certainly not to the extent I can pull them off or otherwise remove them with any ease.

Can any of you suggest how best to do this - obviously it's not much help that I don't know what kind of glue has been used, though there is obviously some kind of glue there.

Any advice you can offer is much appreciated.
Cheers
James

[Silver Stoat]

Heat would seem to be the obvious answer.
Try first with a hair dryer and if that doesn't work, a heat gun or very low flame from a blowtorch ?.
Try to avoid heating the wood and definitely shield it against a heat gun or torch flame.

Avoid twisting when you try to pull them off.

Dave.

[jmunro]

Thanks for the speedy reply - I'll try the hairdryer tonight.
Cheers
James

[highlander]

A lot of older rod used animal glue. I would look at the possibility of using boiling water/steam. But be careful
Tight Lines

[finecanerods]

Repeated cycles of heat and cold generally works. To add to the cautions already raised be aware that there are soldered components on the ferrules and over exuberance can destroy these joints, even before the cane lets loose.

To aid a straight pull it is useful to make a simple tool rather than gripping the hot ferrule with a gloved hand. Measure the diameter of the ferrule behind the shoulder and drill a hole of this diameter through the middle of a piece of wood about 12"x2"x3/4" (through the 3/4" thickness!). Then saw lengthwise along the centre of the wood through the hole and to within about 2" of the other end. You should now find you can pry the sawn end apart and so slightly open your drilled hole. This allows you to slide the tool over the ferrule and once behind the ferrule it can be closed up and you now have a handle to pull off the ferrule and a heat shield.

Well worth the effort.

Gary

[jmunro]

Thanks - I didn't have any joy with the hairdryer, so will try the other methods mentioned. I like the idea of a wooden tool to get the joints off - will try making that today.
James

[Robin]

When you've got them off,don't put them back!
One of the most effective ways of wrecking a rod is to twist the joints,some lockfasts involved this,others don't,but they are still unecessary,properly fitted suction ferrules don't need any help,if you think they do you can always wrap them with amalgamating tape,or whatever the spliced cane rod boys use these days.
Robin

[Robin]

When you've got them off,don't put them back!
One of the most effective ways of wrecking a rod is to twist the joints,some lockfasts involved this,others don't,but they are still unecessary,properly fitted suction ferrules don't need any help,if you think they do you can always wrap them with amalgamating tape,or whatever the spliced cane rod boys use these days.
Robin