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Post by Sewinbasher on Feb 10, 2006 14:44:02 GMT -5
Can anyone please give me an idea of what flies are considered legal for holding up a team of buzzers and acting as an indicator in the Lexus and similar comps?
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Post by PLG on Feb 10, 2006 14:51:55 GMT -5
do you mean what can you get away with for a float in comps?
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Post by Sewinbasher on Feb 10, 2006 19:39:25 GMT -5
In a nutshell - yes!
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Post by ex lampeter exile on Feb 10, 2006 19:53:51 GMT -5
I use 5 plumes of CDC tied on a Kamasan B400. I have caught more on this than the buzzers underneath ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Terry Phillips on Feb 10, 2006 20:02:39 GMT -5
If you don't want to use a mini booby, then a Bullet Bung...  Tied using a Popper head (reversed). Partridge BMN (size to suite comp rules). Painted with Fluoro Craft paint or Rainys popper paint. Popper heads are glued onto the hook, with the gaps filled with epoxy before painting. Very easy to make, but the painting takes some time. The popper heads need a base coat of clear acrylic, then 3-4 coats of the fluoro paint followed by a final coat of clear to finish. Highly visible and very buoyant. You won't be needing anything else. Regards, Terry. |
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Post by Chris on Feb 22, 2006 3:30:33 GMT -5
If you don't want to use a mini booby, then a Bullet Bung... That's a bung and won't be comp legal! It also contains a non compressible material. |
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Post by ultegrafly on Feb 22, 2006 5:10:00 GMT -5
Chris - the LEFC is governed by International Rules and the fly shown above complies to all the international regs for flies in 2005, if you have knowledge that this has changed for the 2006 season can you post them here?
As far as I am aware Bungs with hooks are allowed in comps, it doesn't matter whether the fly contains a non compressible material, the int. rules state that non-compressible beads or sequins must not be used.
I suspect it would go to the match official, but the fly posted by Terry certainly complies to all the rules as I understand them, I've been using a fly made of highly compressed foam for years (more of a pencil shape than the one above) and never had a problem because it contains a hook. I'm sure It could be argued that any fly made with foam (no matter how highly compressed) can be further compressed under pressure.
I've fished a couple of comps that state the fly must fit through the tip ring on the rod, which is why I prefer a pencil version of the Bung.
The 2005 fly regs:
Kev.
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Post by Charlie on Feb 22, 2006 8:11:29 GMT -5
Just as a matter of interest, what is meant by "no additional weight may be added", presumably flies can still be ribbed with wire ? Incredibly, it looks like I am going to subject myself to some of this bollocks this year, although God only knows why there should be restrictions on what sorts of flies we use  Charlie |
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Post by ultegrafly on Feb 22, 2006 8:28:16 GMT -5
Whether you should be using wire ribs is debatable, but totally agree with you about all the fly rules, comps such as the Airflo allow any fishable fly that is within the rules of the fishery you are competing at. Works very well.
Kev.
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Post by PLG on Feb 22, 2006 12:12:02 GMT -5
Just as a matter of interest, what is meant by "no additional weight may be added", presumably flies can still be ribbed with wire ? Charlie a fly tied with a rib must have open turns and the rib has to have no more than 5 turns in it and cannot be of a heavy gauge wire thats the way it was explained to me by a match official when we has to fish abroad hope that helps |
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Post by Chris on Feb 23, 2006 2:25:59 GMT -5
Official response for LEFC:
Hi Chris
The rules regarding the “bung” are the same this year as for the past few seasons.
Under International Rules, no “Floats” or “Bungs” are allowed. This also applies to the lexus Championships.
However, if someone wishes to use a fly, buoyant in it’s characteristics – tied to represent an insect or fish, with a hook included in the dressing – then that is perfectly legal.
It must be capable of hooking a fish. Colour is irrelevant.
A Booby is a perfect example of such a fly – and it can also be termed as a “bung”.
Hope this clarifies the situation.
Best regards and tight lines for a great season
John Horsey
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Post by ultegrafly on Feb 23, 2006 8:05:38 GMT -5
Clear as mud then!  If the rules are unchanged then there shouldn't be any problem using foam indicators such as the one shown as long as there is a hook attached. I'm not sure about the comments of it representing an insect or fish! that embellishment isn't part of the int. regs. I can't see anyone arguing that an Orange 'booby' represents either. Probably better make sure and get confirmation from the match official before you start, I usually do. Kev. |
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Post by nigelh on Mar 28, 2006 12:05:49 GMT -5
Always best to check with the organiser at the event, just show him the flies and get on. When our lads have used a bung we use a foam creation which represents a fry pattern with a split and flared tail. Dead easy to tie and floats well. They have always been approved to date since they bear a reasonable resemblance to a fry.
As for the booby, one team tied them up with eyes about 1/2 an inch apiece !. And if you feel the urge to write back and poke me in the eye with a stick for using a float, don't go there, I don't need telling what it is !.
N
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Post by Dougie on Apr 26, 2006 14:08:15 GMT -5
What a load of bloody nonsense!  Why NOT use a bung or a float or whatever the hell you want to call it - at the end of the day it does the same job anyway so where's the advantage in using one without a hook??  Competitions sound like more hassle than they're worth. It's enough to put you off entering a comp altogether. Rant over ;D Dougie |
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