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Post by Kypmeister on Mar 20, 2006 14:15:52 GMT -5
Before the price of capes go through the roof and supplies run out, I am looking to buy some Jungle Cock.
Before I do so I am looking for some advice, and your help would be appreciated.
What should I look for in the cape.
What should I avoid
How much should I pay.
I have done a quick search on the web and came up with one review in Global flyfisher. Is there any more out there.
Cheers Guys.
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Post by thewickedpickett on Mar 20, 2006 15:22:30 GMT -5
im in the same process myself. it seems to be very hit and miss. Some people are happy with a £30 cape having some split feathers others think its a rip off. Remember they can be repaired with floo gloo. i am buying cheapish JC and repairing it. these guys are the best as you are probably aware www.fishermensfeathers.com/uk/check your pms i know a few guys selling JC at the moment. |
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Post by Daver on Mar 20, 2006 15:37:39 GMT -5
i got one paul,
if you are intrested it is a decent one and a hell of a lot better than some that are kicking around in the 20-40 quid range. Mines aint cheap and it has some splits, but they are split once if anything and they are repairable unlike some fo the ones I have seen that have up to 5-6 splits per feather. not good
let me know if you want a look at it but I am on nights hift
dave
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Post by Gander on Mar 21, 2006 5:09:18 GMT -5
Before the price of capes go through the roof and supplies run out, I am looking to buy some Jungle Cock. Before you panic, I'm not sure that there is an imminent problem with JC capes. My understanding is that it is illegal to import JC into this country. All JC bought in this country is bred from domestic stock in this country. This means our current JC stocks should remain unaffected by restrictions, due to Bird Flu, on cape supplies from abroad. Unless the UK gets hit big time with Bird Flu, I can't see why supplies and pricing should be affected. If I am wrong on this, someone please correct me. |
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Post by charlieH on Mar 21, 2006 5:31:55 GMT -5
Gander, I'd like to think you were correct in saying that all JC bought in this country is legally sourced from home-reared birds. Regrettably, I don't believe this is the case.
It's a subject that's come up here a few times before; suffice to say that there are simply not enough home-reared birds to produce the number of capes offered for sale. The ones from Fisherman's Feathers are also considerably more expensive, and if you look at the £30-£40 capes knocking around they do not look as though they have been professionally cured in this country. I would be most surprised if these were not imports.
Jungle cock is on the CITES Appendix 2, and, strictly speaking, you do not need a licence to import or sell it - it is the export that requires a licence. However, I would hope that any seller of feathers who cares about environmental issues would try to check that the correct paperwork was in place, to be sure that their capes do not come from birds taken illegally from the wild.
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Post by thewickedpickett on Mar 21, 2006 7:47:08 GMT -5
do salmon still take split JC or is there a definite advantage to the perfect stuff?
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Post by John Gray on Mar 21, 2006 7:54:18 GMT -5
do salmon still take split JC or is there a definite advantage to the perfect stuff? Salmon have been known to take a fly with no jungle cock in it at all! |
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Post by thewickedpickett on Mar 21, 2006 7:57:08 GMT -5
i do this every year, tell myself i will buy JC and tie with it. then end up tying without it. just spent ages repairing some cheap feathers i bought there. wonder if its worth it
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Post by carrondam on Apr 10, 2006 17:21:27 GMT -5
i have grade 1 no splits £50
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Post by Braveheart on Apr 11, 2006 1:25:08 GMT -5
As long as there are not too many splits in the eyes I wouldn't worry about using (and repairing) them.
Only thing I really like in a JC cape is buttery yellow eyes, I hate white eyes.
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Post by jan on Apr 11, 2006 2:02:56 GMT -5
have you had much success repairing split eyes? i spent a lot of time last year with floo gloo and had very limited success - not really worth the effort was my conclusion.
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Post by Braveheart on Apr 11, 2006 2:12:37 GMT -5
100% success rate Jan.
The way I do it is to put some floo gloo on my thumb and first finger then draw the JC between them, coating both sides of the eye at the same time.
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Post by hametied on Apr 11, 2006 11:45:22 GMT -5
i have one of carrondams grade ones and can vouch for there being no splits. there are plenty of eyes in the trout size range aswell. first class
wullie
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Post by jan on Apr 12, 2006 1:37:17 GMT -5
100% success rate Jan. The way I do it is to put some floo gloo on my thumb and first finger then draw the JC between them, coating both sides of the eye at the same time. sounds like exactly what i did - they just sprung apart again - very dissappointing - must just be a cr..p cape - fortunately all the small feathers are fine but the larger ones are mostly split - i have had it for a while - i dont suppose the fish care but they look nicer on the fly in one piece. |
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Post by Daver on Apr 12, 2006 2:14:56 GMT -5
other thing with the floo goo i noticed was it burns your skin if you have it on there too long
rgds...Dave
I just split the feathers and use them that way, those dabblers I sent you Jan they are split feathers.
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