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Post by killipso on May 4, 2006 11:16:07 GMT -5
PTNs and GRHEs. I just gotta ask again - are you guys fishing those things on still or running water? I admit i only try em while nothing else has worked so not really a fair test as there was nothing doing anyway. What conditions you find best for ptn and grhe? How do you like to fish them? I asked about the kind of water because I think the PTN and GRHE are a must have on running water and they work for everyone don't they? But on stillwaters I have to say, they don't fish so well for me either. Both the GRHE and PTN get dressed in so many different styles - one angler's GRHE is another angler's Dog Biscuit Fly  So maybe some of us just don't have the right dressing at times  |
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Post by buzz on May 4, 2006 11:22:35 GMT -5
Viva,stickfly and bloodworm(in all its manifestations).
Bloodworm? Can you believe it. As my name suggests buzzers are a no brainer for me( Ive even stripped them and caught) but as soon as i put any red fluff on a hook I'm stuffed. Apps bloodworm... nae chance, lets face it its a big lure so it shouldn't have a hex on it but me.... zilch.
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Post by Trout on May 4, 2006 11:23:18 GMT -5
Any type of dry!
Actualy, i have had a wild broonie on a dry in a river, and a fish on a dry as a small lake.
But nothing happens on Blagdon!
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Post by thewickedpickett on May 4, 2006 11:24:17 GMT -5
Don't be saying that i've just convinced myself the exact dressing is not crucial |
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Post by killipso on May 4, 2006 14:38:53 GMT -5
Don't be saying that i've just convinced myself the exact dressing is not crucial Sorry, didn't really mean to throw a spanner in the works  I don't think it does matter in many ways. But perhaps it does when you get some pretty extreme differences in dressings. For instance, a PTN might be dressed like a buzzer with no tail, a skinny body extending round the bend, a large thorax, and no hackle, all on a size 8 buzzer hook; or it might be tied with a tail, tapered body on the straight shank, a proportionately longer thorax, and a wet-fly throat hackle, all on a size 14 nymph hook. Now the latter is more of a 'traditional' pattern and definitely a PTN, but I've still seen the other pattern referred to as a PTN. I think it would perhaps be more accurately called a Coves Pheasant Tail? Whatever, they are quite different flies and can't really be expected to perform the same. It's a real jinx when someone shows you the actual fly they are using and maybe you are in the same boat for instance, fishing the very same pattern and method, and you still don't get any fish. That's the Diawl Bach for me  Fortunately I have my own useful flies, that with a little luck bring a fish or two. Hope that doesn't make you feel worse wickedpickett! |
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Post by kiegers on May 4, 2006 14:46:46 GMT -5
GRHE and an Alexandra waste of a good hook.
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Post by FryFly on May 5, 2006 5:45:12 GMT -5
Cats Whisker, We're not friends anymore.
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Post by welshy on May 5, 2006 11:31:20 GMT -5
Mine would also be a buzzer, ive never caught on them, read loads about how to fish them and implied as much as ive read to my actualy fishing and still nothing. I better get one this season otherwise il probs never fish one again! I suppose if i had them on my leader longer it might work, but i have more confidence in others so....  welshy |
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So maybe some of us just don't have the right dressing at times 
I don't think it does matter in many ways. But perhaps it does when you get some pretty extreme differences in dressings. For instance, a PTN might be dressed like a buzzer with no tail, a skinny body extending round the bend, a large thorax, and no hackle, all on a size 8 buzzer hook; or it might be tied with a tail, tapered body on the straight shank, a proportionately longer thorax, and a wet-fly throat hackle, all on a size 14 nymph hook. Now the latter is more of a 'traditional' pattern and definitely a PTN, but I've still seen the other pattern referred to as a PTN. I think it would perhaps be more accurately called a Coves Pheasant Tail? Whatever, they are quite different flies and can't really be expected to perform the same.
Fortunately I have my own useful flies, that with a little luck bring a fish or two.
