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Post by Tytelynes on Apr 18, 2006 21:22:58 GMT -5
Detergent will ruin some lines also.
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Post by The Famous Grouse on Apr 18, 2006 22:19:32 GMT -5
Um, was the question not about cleaning a fly line? Armor-all is not a cleaner. It's a plastic or rubber protector.
Guys, let's not over think this one.
To CLEAN a fly line, fill a bucket with warm (not hot) water and three drops of washing up soap. strip the line into the bucket and try your best to keep the ends where you can see them to avoid an un-godly tangle.
Let it soak for an hour, swishing it around once in a while because floating lines, um, float.
Then give it one last swish and hold one of the free ends. Dunk a clean cotton rag in the soapy water and strip the line through the rag held tightly in your hand. Yuck. Look at all that curd that came off your line.
Now before some ninny comes on with horror stores about somebody's brother-in-law's cousin's third wife's father who ruined his fly line with washing-up soap, let me remind you that you can put your d**n hands in a much higher concentration of this stuff than I'm recommending here.
Works great. Cost? I just calculated it out and it's .009 cents per wash. I think one bottle of washing up liquid will clean about 900 miles of fly line.
Grouse
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Post by Tytelynes on Apr 19, 2006 4:59:10 GMT -5
Since there is more than one way to skin a cat, you can also strip all of your line out while walking around the house. Put one end in a wet cloth lathered with Ivory bar soap (it is non-detergent) and walk the length of the line stripping it through the frequently turned cloth. Several swipes like that followed up with a rinse wipe or two with clear water and you are good to go. No tangles either. Look at the first item here from the kind folks who make a lot of the lines we use: www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/scianglers/pdf/ms_bulletin/Bulletin400.pdfAgain, why risk second-guessing the manufacturer?
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Post by dumpy on Apr 19, 2006 5:05:18 GMT -5
Can you tell me what shakespeare lines are made off ;D
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Post by dumpy on Apr 19, 2006 5:06:12 GMT -5
Has anybody got an email address for shakespeare uk
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Post by sagefly on Apr 19, 2006 6:29:05 GMT -5
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Post by dumpy on Apr 19, 2006 9:47:14 GMT -5
Cheers Sagefly, i googled shakespeare and the link to the uk website sent me to one underconstruction
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Post by sagefly on Apr 19, 2006 9:53:44 GMT -5
That is true, just use the dilute solution that Grouse suggested and you will have no problems.
I do this every season and then use the SA lineslick and it goes okay.
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Post by dumpy on Apr 20, 2006 11:58:40 GMT -5
Having a nose around the net, it seems that not all, like Armorall for vinyl. it contains propylene glycol ether, isopropanol and surfactants, so were is the silicon and how was it found that it contained silicon.Any way ive email shakepeare and hope to get a reply,maybe shed some light on there line construction. Not holding my breath Is Dove soap a good soap for cleaning lines its PH neutral ;D
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Post by The Famous Grouse on Apr 20, 2006 12:12:59 GMT -5
Dumpy, there's really no need to hyperanalyize this problem. A few drops of washing up liquid in a bucket of water works great and will get a line as clean as any other line cleaner. It also costs next to nothing.
There has been a ton of super-anal pseudo-analysis on different cleaners and protectorants like Armorall and weather or not they might "harm" fly lines. These are about 95% urban legend. There are very, very, very few examples out there where the cause can be absolutely attributed to damage from these products and these products alone.
The fact of the matter is, most fly lines die of old age.
Grouse
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Post by 3lbgrayling on Apr 22, 2006 4:32:23 GMT -5
I have around half a bottle spare if someone wants to try it. (Snowbee Line Slick ) that is. First one to PM me can try it for free. ;D thank you v-much for the line slick .am going to try it next week ;D jim
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Post by dumpy on Apr 22, 2006 8:45:53 GMT -5
I must admit Armorall does do a good cleaning job , i used it friday to clean my gunked up line, was impressed ,the towel looked like skid marks in my underpants , it didnt cast well first off,but once it had abit of water on it,it went like a missile , i wouldnt use it all the time ,only when needed if im fishing
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Post by dumpy on Apr 27, 2006 11:49:35 GMT -5
Well got an email back from Shakespeare and there lines are PVC, they recommend washing in soap powder,not detergent and using a commercial line dressing ;D.Is washing powder(soap powder) the stuff you use in washing machines,and detergent is fairy liquid just to get my mind straight on this
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