Shorb Loop for Furled Leaders

[Bob G]

I am making heavy weather putting this loop onto the end of furled leaders. Its going wrong taking the loops off the paper clips & onto the latch hook (knit picker) because the leader wants to unravel and the diameter of the clips is smaller than the latch hook. I've tried putting a simple overhand knot into the leader but to be any use preventing unravelling, the knot is too near where I am trying to work.
Thanks in advance
Bob

[jimwilliams]

Hi Bob,

Try the following......Hope it helps

Let me know if you need more detail







" I mean away you go"

This is very useful if you have fingers like sausages.

[AlanB]

I'm not familiar with the Shorb loop however several years ago I was introduced to the American Splice. It may be the same thing.
When you have furled the leader push the latched hook through the body of the leader near the end where you want the loop.

Catch the loop in the end of the leader on the hook. (I like Jim's bulldog clip method for this.

Pull the tip through the body of the leader.

Push the latch through the tip loop, and pick up the loop you have just formed.

Pull the newly formed loop through the tip loop

The resulting loop can be made in both ends of the leader.


Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Alan.

[3lbgrayling]

nice to have you on board jim williams.hope you'll stay awhile.

jim

[whelzer]

That bulldog clip thing is very good. The best ideas are always the simpliest! I have tried lots of things for this small but annoying problem..

I intend on trying it at the weekend...

Thanks

Paul

[Bob G]

Thanks to Jim & Alan for the time & trouble you have clearly gone to on this.
What seems to be clear from Alan's pictures is that the paper clips & latch hook tip are about the same diameter. The diameter of my paper clips is much smaller. Easy to sort that. Jim - Bulldog clip great idea, & that design always had plenty of bite. Alan - The American Splice seems to be the Shorb Loop but done in reverse & looks easier. Will experiment.
Lastly, I notice both sets of pictures seem to show the loops on one paper clip, whereas I have loops on two paper clips after the second furl. Could you tell me if you use a different method or have you put all the loops on one paper clip before the photo sequence?
Thanks again for all you help.
Bob

[jimwilliams]

Hi Bob,

The one paper clip: Yes I transfer from the 2 prior to the furl as for me it negates any sliding possibility between the two legs, and more so, I find it easier to transfer to the picker from the 1 paperclip as opposed to the 2.

Looking at the picture references the Shorb and Splice seem the same.

[Bob G]

Thanks Jim about the clips.
I have had another try as shown below:


When I tried this I was on the 2 paper clip method and couldn't find a small Bulldog clip so I used the thingy in the photo, which has a spring loaded clip at the end. I gripped the thick end just below the clips, leaving enough room to get the picker thru. I then followed Alan's pics. His knot seems to be a hell of a lot easier to use & looks the same as the Shorb Loop when finished. The only problem I found (which shows in the pic) was that I needed to slightly unravel the end loops to get the picker shaft thru the loops. I then wondered if the pickers come in different sizes.
Bob

[jimwilliams]

Hi Bob,
Yes the pickers do come in different sizes, go to your local coarse angling shop, you can buy them very small indeed (The boilie guys use em, I nicked my fathers, that reminds me....must return the mower)
Best thing would be to take an un-shorbed leader attached to your paper clip and try it....or at worst measure it against the various sizes, there'd be no harm done in that.

[Bob G]

Thanks Jim,
I didn't find any reference to sizes on Google, so that's just what I needed.
Bob

[AlanB]

Just to put the cat among the pigeons. I don't use paperclips!

Cheers,
Alan.

[Bob G]

alanb said:

Just to put the cat among the pigeons. I don't use paperclips!

Cheers,
Alan.

Oh for goodness sake! I've just got a tiny latch lock from the carp shop now there's an alternative to paperclips.
Come on then Alan do tell, please, pretty please, ;D
Bob

[Bob G]

FWIW this is the difference in sizes between an ordinary latch lock & one from the carp shop & the consequent reduction in loop size.



Bob