Help with a casting problem please?

[alberto]

Can you haul on a roll cast?

Yes you can go for it and if you haul on a jump roll or dynamic roll it is shear joy and the distance can be impressive. Introduce the haul at the same point as overhead cast. Go to www.sexyloops.com/flycasting/tdynamicroll.shtml

[rrw35]

To really rocket the line out, haul pulling the line right behind your left leg (assuming you are a right handed caster).

[birdsnest]

it is important to drift the rod on the back cast. ie. make your usual back cast with the haul element in pausing at th 12(ish)o'clock then drift back a little to unload the rod once the line is extending. The power is re-applied on the forward cast but in a controlled many. Remember most hauling faults are down to too much power. There is no need to "bang" out the line. If you do yoy will introduce shake into the rod and the line will not extend. See the Michael Evans video distance casting and the double haul. Thoroughly recommended. Yes stu71 you can indeed haul on a roll cast see jump roll and snake roll casting in the same video and the advanced video in the same series. Awesome. Goodluck and tight lines.

PS Don't forget that most trout are caught within 10 yds so don't forget to fish that water out first before you spook them.

[stu71]

excellent feedback and thank you all - very useful. I was using too much power on the forward stroke and not drifting on the back cast. It was causing a tail loop every time. I need this cast as where I fish it can get very windy as it's quite exposed and the extra punch that a haul provides is really useful. It needs practice though! Trying to get your head around less power = further distance is hard work for my brain ....but I am getting there and it is very satisfying, thanks to all...stu

[tom]

I agree, forget this clock face stuff and read 'the cast' by Ed Jarawoski.

[bloke]

thewickedpickett said:

for our purposes drifting isn't an exact science. Arden and co seem to drift almost back to the horizontal. when i do it i make sure my initial back cast is good and high ie where i stop is good and high almost vertical then i drift straight upwards and then backwards to near 3 o clock

hope this helps

theres another famous article on loops where he describes drifitng up and backwards.

works a treat

The "drift" should not be confused with the point at which the tip of the rod has completed its task and loaded the blank sufficiently to maximise the shape of the loop on the back cast to create the precise point at which the forward cast should be employed...try this ....on the back cast pull and lift the third three digits of the hand and then change the shape of the grip to utilise the thumb and first two digits on the forward cast to enable the thumb to push the rod tip over....this way the back cast " drift " controls the shape of the loop even though the rod could be horizontal....complicated I know but once mastered it will change the way you cast forever. Carl (Berlin) taught me this and I thought I was useful with a fly rod until I met him.
Most casting instructors I have met have little or no understanding of this technique and I urge anybody who is serious about fly casting to drive to Yorkshire and get a lesson off Carl.
M