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Post by Duncan on Jan 16, 2006 14:11:30 GMT -5
Didn't manage the last day, you can have too much of a good thing or can you?
Any news on the Derwent, should be fishing at Cromford on Sunday, weather permitting, annual 'cane and pin' day.
HO
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Post by richardw on Jan 16, 2006 17:53:37 GMT -5
No news Warren may have some info. The family farm is down that way. Sabbath spoken for, so I miss it yet again. Have you a cane trotting rod? Would you like to borrow one of mine? There is a choice of centrepins too... I do think they should allow worms (red worms not big'uns). When I was a member at Chatsworth I found maggots attracted trout whereas worms got me the grayling without bringing trout into the swim. But I'd love to give it a go. Maybe one year they'll set it for a Saturday? Have a great time and please give my best wishes to Brian and the lads. richard
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Post by Duncan on Jan 18, 2006 1:37:37 GMT -5
Many thanks for the kind offer, however I'll manage with the tackle I've already got.
I fished the area a couple of times now, and to date I've never caught a trout, despite using maggots. The red ones seem to work.
I'll pass on your regards and certainly mention the day.
HO
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Post by pbannis on Jan 19, 2006 11:11:58 GMT -5
I have fished the Darley Dale Water just above Rowsley the last couple of weeks. My first time for 35 years trotting a worm. I treated myself to a cheap fixed spool reel & coarse rod at Xmas.
Great fun. Mainly grayling but one large & angry 17" rainbow , all on worm.
Now, an opinion from the forum. Are centre pin reels worth the money & if so which one.
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Post by richardw on Jan 19, 2006 12:30:59 GMT -5
Yes they are. Mine are all very old so cannot advise on modern ones.
richard
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Post by finecanerods on Jan 20, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
Using a centrepin can be a delight but the benefit you gain will depend a lot on how much effort you are prepared to put in. With this in mind rushing out and paying over £200 for a new one might be regarded as a little rash but equally buying a poor one will not help you.
If at all possible find someone you can borrow one from for a few sessions, better still someone who can show you how to use one. Failing that get a decent old reel off ebay, do some research and be prepared to practice. A 4" narrow drum Speedia can be had for around £50 or a late Match Aerial for £100 if you are lucky, as always good mechanical condition is the key. If you search the internet you will find lots of info on centrepins new and old.
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Post by Sewinbasher on Jan 20, 2006 11:50:16 GMT -5
To trot properly the key thing is that the centrepin should be of good enough quality and balanced fine enough for the strength of the current alone to pull line off the reel. The more expensive the reel the better its going to do this - the trick is to find the compromise between price and quality.
Don't let anyone try and tell you that trotting with a centre pin is not a decent and acceptable way to fish for grayling in the Winter. In many ways it requires more (and different) skills to bugging and can be more enjoyable. Just fish barbless and slip em back. The worms may come off a bit easily but you don't want to damage the fish.
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Post by Duncan on Jan 20, 2006 15:18:33 GMT -5
If you want to break the bank and have one of the finest modern centrepins available, then have a look at the link. I saw them a couple of years ago at an angling fair, they really are a masterpiece of modern engineering. You'll wait 12-18months and they're not cheap, but they are a joy to use! www.chrislythe-centrepins.co.ukFailing that, if you can find a good old ariel, then you'll never loose money on it. I managed to get hold of a Youngs Purist, it does the job, fine, looks ok, but it's no where near the Chris Lythe beauties! Or the nostalgia of an Ariel. HO
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Post by Duncan on Jan 22, 2006 16:41:03 GMT -5
A superb day, with almost all rods catching.
I fished a stretch reserved for bait fishers, maggots only and managed 11 grayling, no monsters, a couple of browns and ended the day with a superb 2 1/2lb chub.
HO
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Post by nicepix on Jan 22, 2006 16:52:01 GMT -5
I accompanied my friend on the Waltonian's stretch last week and bumped into a couple of nice old chaps who were trotting for grayling. One of them had a fifty year old wide spool Ariel that he had owned from new and used almost every week since. It still ran perfectly.
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Post by richardw on Feb 1, 2006 7:04:14 GMT -5
We need some big rain... Soon! richard
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Post by Cranefly on Feb 3, 2006 5:10:04 GMT -5
Happy birthday Warren.
I'd send you some rain, if I had any to spare.
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Post by richardw on Feb 12, 2006 6:14:51 GMT -5
Spent some time yesterday in a tiny river that is a tributary of a tributary to the Wye. This river is now destined to be tiny for evermore as abstraction and the very poor rains we get these days have taken their toll on it. Sins of the past (well meant no doubt, we have the benefit of hindsight now) include dredging, impoundment by weirs and widening, and consent to steal the river's water from its aquifers before it has been allowed to flow in the river. All these have combined to make the river a silty mud bath in many places, almost devoid of life.
The natural water flow is unlikely ever to be restored so, if the river is to be healthy and support life, what water IS allowed to flow must be made to do more over the river bed. The keepers have been working very hard, using brawn and brains to cause flows to speed up and the river to meander. Faġgot bundles anchored to create pinches and speed flows, living willow fences woven to make new banks forcing meanders whilst at the same time creating habitat for baby fish to live in and overhanging aerial cover for larger fish to feel safe under, weirs removed so gravel and stone riffles can take their places, plants like sedge, flag iris and meadowsweet to strengthen banks and prevent erosion during a winter scour and buffer strip fencing to save the banks from the damaging effects of livestock. All over the place these features are being introduced in a determined effort that the river will live.
It is one thing to use abundant natural resources (like a good flow of clean water on the Wye) to create wonderful habitats that together create a great fishery, it is quite another to create the necessary habitats for a decent fishery when the most vital resource, water, is scarce.
This must be the ultimate test of what expert husbandry, from well qualified keepers can achieve. I will watch and see how events unfold on this water over the next few years. Can it be done? Or will it be a heartbreaking waste of effort? The results will be important to all of us because this tiny river is not unique!
richard
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Post by Cranefly on Feb 13, 2006 7:54:26 GMT -5
Richard,
I can see the potential benefits to bank stability of sedge and flag iris but meadow sweet, what does it do?
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Post by richardw on Feb 13, 2006 9:13:08 GMT -5
From a bank stability point of view it helps bridge the gap between plants that thrive in wet ground (iris and sedge for example) and those that like things more damp than wet (hemp agrimony etc). It's roots are quite strong and wiry. It also claims the ground that might otherwise be colonised by that alien nuisance reed canary grass.
richard
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