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Post by theporter on Jul 14, 2005 4:34:22 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me how the law stands on fly fishing for sea trout in the sea around estuary mouths in Scotland? I was recently told by the manager of a well known NE fishery that it was illegal! I suppose the question arises as to where the estuary ends and the sea starts. Any info would be appreciated before I get hauled up in front of the procurator fiscal and relieved of my tackle and liberty!
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Post by rrw35 on Jul 14, 2005 4:43:22 GMT -5
Tell them you are fishing for mackerel and bass. As long as you are not in possession of a dead sea-trout and have a valid game licence, i cant see a problem.
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Post by thewickedpickett on Jul 14, 2005 4:45:30 GMT -5
wyhen i was on the sea pools of the drowes a bait man tried to fish down at the sea and was literally thrown off by that bill guy. might be different with something like the sea pools tho
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Post by rrw35 on Jul 14, 2005 4:49:38 GMT -5
I would class that stretch as part of the river. And BTW Bill takes no prisoners!!!
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Post by thewickedpickett on Jul 14, 2005 4:52:24 GMT -5
so i gather seen him throw a few off the river.
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Post by highlander on Jul 14, 2005 7:06:10 GMT -5
you need "Written Permission" to angle for Salmon & Sea Trout. We do not have a game licence as such here. Having said that if you were spinning off the shore "For Mackerel" & happened upon a Sea Trout....your decision. I am not aware of any body having been proscecuted in those circumstances though technically you could be. Tight LInes
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Post by Clydesider on Jul 14, 2005 9:02:35 GMT -5
Sea trout come in at the Gourock pier and other Mackerel hotspots in the Clyde Estuary every year.
In fact, most of them end up as "fish of the week" in the Greenock Telegraph. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted.
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Post by highlander on Jul 14, 2005 10:05:47 GMT -5
Loch Lomond Angling has the migratory fishing rights along the sea front from I believe Bowling right up to & including Gareloch. In theory you would need a Permit but like you say many fish for Mackeral & catch Sea Trout .On my side as they pass Ardmore Point many fish in summer & never "get caught" What we in the club are after & indeed target are the netters. Mainly Chinese who target the large shoals of Mullet but who are not adverse to knocking a Salmon or Sea Trout on the head if they can get away with it. Tight Lines
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Post by Clydebuilt on Jul 14, 2005 10:26:56 GMT -5
I have a Leven Ticket and occasionally fish along the coast including Ardmore Point.
I have been asked for my ticket on a number of occasions this season but never before.
I agree with Highlander in that its the netters they are after.
I have taken many fish (on the fly) from Inverkip shore and the Cloch shore, but i have heard there are many boundaries around certain river mouths.
I think the Grimesta and possibly the Eachaig ( only ones i have been told of) have them about one mile each side of the river mouths
Clydebuilt
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Post by gunner100 on Jul 14, 2005 11:02:07 GMT -5
This is a hardy perrenial.
The law in Scotland is quite clear.
Quote - ''To take or attempt to take , without permission in or from any river, stream, lake, water, estuary, firth, sea loch, creek, bay, or shore of the sea or in or upon any part of the sea within one mile of the low water mark in Scotland, salmon, grilse, sea trout, whitling or any other fish of the salmon species '' requires the permission of the riparian proprietor. Fairly all embracing - I suspect it would cover the few sea run rainbows around and escaped farmed salmon.
Most rivers have a boundary on the sea shore adjacent to their estuaries to which the riparian proprietor has exclusive rights to fish for salmonids. If you catch one you are required to offer it to the proprietor!
My own local club has the sole rights to fish for salmonids on the adjacent foreshore. We protect these rights having anti-poaching patrols equipped with night sights in conjunction with the police.
You take sea trout and other salmonids in the above circumstances at your own risk.
Lyall
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Post by segdoune on Jul 14, 2005 11:07:04 GMT -5
Hi, Extract from Fishing In Scotland Law for the angler Second edition The Hon. Lord Jauncey
It is an offence for any person without legal right or without written permission from a person having such right to fish for Salmon or Seatrout in any water or in the sea within one mile of the low tide mark (1951 Act,s.1.)
I cant honestly say if the above is still active. Colin
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Post by gunner100 on Jul 14, 2005 11:17:44 GMT -5
Hi Colin B,
Yes it is.
Ye cannae dae it.
lyall
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Post by segdoune on Jul 14, 2005 11:47:04 GMT -5
Hi, A wee bit off subject. I was out on patrol along the shore line on the look out for estuary netters. I was carrying the usual tools, radio, big binoculars and a large stick (don’t ask) I was approached by a bloke wearing a red knitted pullover and nothing else. He politely asked what I was doing. I told him what I was up to and that I was a bailiff. It then slowly sunk in exactly where I was. I was about a half mile in to a nudist beach with a big pair of binoculars round my neck. Although there was not a boat or canoe in sight I continually scanned the sea till I made my way out of the area. Glad no one recognised me.
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Post by rrw35 on Jul 14, 2005 11:50:54 GMT -5
Not the old "Er, I'm a bailiff, honest guv", excuse!! Perv!! Hee Hee ;D ;D
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Post by zeolite on Jul 15, 2005 3:52:43 GMT -5
Gunner100....You aren't referring to the Backies by any chance?
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