spey casts

[sage]

Hi All.

Just a quick question for all the fellas who are good spey casters, for an average caster, what distance would you be expecting to cast a single and double spey cast,I'm not thinking of casting to the horizon, but what would be a good average distance.

Thanks

[G Ritchie]

Most people are casting about 25 to 30 yards, even on big rivers such as the Spey. Surprisingly few can cast more than 35 yards. Many people overestimate the distance they can cast and are generally surprised when they try out the casting competitions at various game fairs that they are not putting the line out as far as they thought.

[ACW]

Graham is spot on ,me I go 25 yards when I am casting OK ,in the groove 30 yds happens > i measure by how much of a 40yd line is left on the spool and throw in a factor for line wiggle !!

[sage]

Hi.

Does that go for both the double and single spey?am i right in thinking the double spey is less efficent cast than the single?

[Willie Gunn]

sage said:

Hi.

Does that go for both the double and single spey?am i right in thinking the double spey is less efficent cast than the single?

Yes, you should only double when there is a strong downstream wind, learn to single off both shoulders

[G Ritchie]

The double Spey is less efficient than the single. If you want distance, then the snake roll is more efficient than the double Spey. As Willie Gunn says, it is a great advantage if you can learn to cast off each shoulder.

[sage]

Hi All.

Thanks for the info, I perfere to use the snake roll, than double spey, the main thing I was asking about with the distance, is I don't want to think I'm not doing to well, only to be over enthusiastic,double spey is to about 80ft, jump roll/switch cast full line + some backing,not sure on the single spey.

I have done my trout instructors exam and now thinking of doing the salmon, so i just want to know what is a reasonable distance, so I am not trying to hard to reach a distance that is not really exceptable.

The more modern casts ie snake roll, snap T and the likes all seem to work better than D-Spey so that is what made me think it was not quite right.

All very new to me, so i don't really know what to expect, but i'm trying

Thanks for the help and info.

[Bugsy]

Hi Sage

When do you hope to get your Salmon casting qualification?

I see your from mid Wales.............where do you fish for Salmon?

Bugsy

[sage]

Hi Bugsy.

I must admit, I don't really fish for salmon at the mow, but I love the casting, when I took my trout exam, with Illtyd Griffiths, he let me have a go with a double hander, hooked ever since, but it has taken me a while to get sorted out.

I have been invited to fish for salmon up your neck of the woods on the Dee as a guest, so when I'm happy with my casting and latter in the year, I will give it a go.

Do you fish salmon ?By the way the severn has started picked up salmon wise over the last couple of years.

[fredaevans]

If I may make an additional suggestion, mark your lines with a perm. marker pen. I mark mine at 25 foot intervals, this way (and it varies from line to line/rod to rod) I actually have a good idea how much line I have off the reel.

The markings provide three bits of information. The first is where is the 'sweet spot' for casting this particular combination?

Secondly is how much line do I really have out in play? You will probably find that a given cast will allow you to 'shoot' more line than some other.

The third thing is: so you have all that line out .... can you actually control the line and fish effectively? To use the old golf chestnut: "You drive for show, but you putt for dough." Distance casting is greatly over rated IMHO. My most effective 'fishing distance' is (with leader) out to about 90 to 100 feet. Beyond that .....

So mark your lines and find where you have a comfort range (including your leader/fly) in casting and line control, as that's really all it's about.

Fred

[sage]

Hi Fred .
Thanks for the info