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Post by Paul Boote on Feb 14, 2006 17:40:05 GMT -5
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chiro
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Post by chiro on Feb 15, 2006 5:29:08 GMT -5
A few may be caught on a fly rod and nymphs, but if you look at the pictures, you will also see a carp rod. Shame on me, I didn't notice those 2/3 pictures, Nevertheless that angler caught really big ones on fly tackle. Here is another picture showing a really bending rod with a 10lbs specimen. www.gobages.net/resserver.php?blogId=32&resource=VR%20BAF.JPG
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Post by davidr on Feb 17, 2006 5:30:48 GMT -5
Im going to try for barbel and carp exclusivley this August, they scrap well, are in good condition in the summer and you can buy cheap day tickets. Fishing still waters for trout seems pointless in summer anyway and all the good river fishing is way beyond my pocket. Its probably more of a challenge sight fishing for large wild fish than stocked brownies and rainbows!! Does this point of view constitute a crime on this site
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Post by moustique on Feb 17, 2006 6:18:14 GMT -5
If the weather is hot, or the river levels are low, then you may struggle no matter where or what you fish for? Fishing by sight can be exciting with plenty of heart stopping moments! However, I wouldn't call stocked carp "wild fish", especially if you are fishing day ticket waters where they get a lot of pressure, barbel are different if you can find a stretch of river were they don't get much pressure - but then I guess you'd call it paradise! At least it's a different challenge and can be great fun if the conditions are right!
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Post by barbus on Feb 18, 2006 13:28:14 GMT -5
Hello,
I was informed of your discussion through the link towards my blog which was diffused on your forum. I’m tracking big barbels since now 5 years, and exclusively with the fly since 3 years. I’ve fished these fish at the beginning with feeder rods, but I quickly realized that it was possible to capture them with nymph. I'd like to make a correction concerning the use of the boca grip. The fish presented was captured by one of my friends with a spinning rod (softbait) even if he did not seek to capture a barbel. It is obvious that the use of this grip is extremely inadvisable for this species, but it is all that he had this day to unhook this fish. As far as I am concerned, I use a large landing net. On the river that I fish, it is possible to track this species almost all the year with the fly. Water is very clear, and the flow is constant throughout the year. I fished in many rivers in France and Europe, but it is on this river that I saw or touched the largest specimens. For information, the largest fish that we captured this year with the fly made 97cm.
Tight lines
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Post by moustique on Feb 20, 2006 7:27:38 GMT -5
Barbus Many thanks for the explanation with regards the boga grip, it is appreciated. It's also nice to hear that this is not the usual method of landing barbel. Sounds like you have some excellent water for fishing the nymph for barbel! 97 cms is a long / big barbel! In the UK we have The Barbel Society, www.thebarbelsociety.co.uk/ and they do overseas memberships if you're interested? I'm sure their members would be interested in hearing and reading about the barbel fishng that you and your friends enjoy!
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Post by Nathan on Feb 28, 2006 4:55:04 GMT -5
Catchin Barbel on a fly is new too me but i bet its great fun ;D. Would normal trout reservoir tackle do? 10ft 7# job. What sort of tackle would i need and what flies? FLUFF* A random picture of a barbel - a nice fully finned one at that. Bet that would have been ace to hook on a fly!!
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chiro
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Post by chiro on Mar 17, 2006 8:03:15 GMT -5
What sort of tackle would i need and what flies? For the tackle if I could give you an advice, a #5/6/7 rod could do the job but I prefer using cheap rods rather than the top one I'm used to for trout /grayling. Because if you're lucky enough to hook a big barbel this could be a torture for your rod. For the nymph : as heavy as possible. Now most of the time I use size 10/12 gold bead + lead nymphs (body made with dubbing). As your nymph should always be at the bottom I now place the gold bead near the bend of the hook rather than near the hook eye. This way my nymph drifts without hooking every rock / weed.
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Post by ruddyroach on Mar 28, 2006 12:50:03 GMT -5
moustique...
remember, they ARE French!!!
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Post by NickH on Mar 29, 2006 8:04:02 GMT -5
Barbel on the fly are a very real proposition in this country. A few years ago I used to be a member of a syndicate on the River Ure on North Yorks, the Grayling fishing was always good but one day I "fluked" a Barbel..........................this got me thinking. Having targeted these fish as a coarse angler I always had most success either very early the morning and correspondingly in the evenings so that is when I focussed my attentions. To cut a long story short I managed some quite good catches on the fly , mainly using Czech type nymphs but fished on a longer line than is conventional as the Barbel are very wary of anyone "invading" their space. Clear water is absolutely essential (as in most forms of fly fishing) for good results, as a consequence I used to try when the water was at "skinny" Summer levels.
The waters I fished were mainly undisturbed by bait men so the Barbel had grown up on a "natural" diet, which I believe made them easier to fool on nymphs.
Best fish ?, 10lb 2oz which graced the inside front page of the Angling Times. But it was quite common to 3 or 4 in a two hour session. Tackle ? - I intially used a 4 weight as for the Grayling but had quite a few problems with landing these things which are incredibly powerful (try attaching your line to an Intercity 125 and you will see what I mean) so I upped the tackle to a 10' 6 weight, still OK for the Grayling and occasional Trout but the heavier gear gave me a much better "conversion rate" with the Barbel. Incidentally if the "whiskers" arent feeding or proving elusive, find some overhainging Willows or snags of a similar nature and try for the Chub - Great fun on the fly. Nick Halstead
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Post by moustique on Mar 29, 2006 11:23:06 GMT -5
Hi Nick, A nice result for your efforts! I've bait fished for barbel for many years and personally I wouldn't be happy with a 6#, if I ever get around to fishing for them with nymphs, then I'd probably use an old 8#. I'd also agree that if the barbel aren't feeding there are usually plenty of chub to tempt!
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Post by troutfisher 710 on Mar 30, 2006 14:26:43 GMT -5
Got some lovely fishing for both on the Aire for free if either of you fancy a chance Gary
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Post by moustique on Apr 3, 2006 4:34:58 GMT -5
Hi Gary, Many thanks for the invitation! I will take you up on your kind offer - once the weather settles and the coarse season opens. It's always nice to fish new waters and meet fellow anglers Cheers for now,
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