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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 11, 2005 12:06:17 GMT -5
I'm based in Amsterdam. Drop me a line if you're interested.
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Post by Jalume on Jan 11, 2005 13:03:10 GMT -5
Whats the fishing like in your neck of the woods?
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 11, 2005 14:03:17 GMT -5
There are only a couple of places to fish for trout here but there is a lot of pike fishing on the fly. The Dutch are pretty much leading the field in fly fishing for pike.
I fish for pike, carp and any other coarse fish. There is a hell of a lot of water over here with a hell of a lot of fish. But I had to get over my trout fishing pretensions to really enjoy it. Once I did, I realised I was surrounded by coutless wild fish in wild water. A fishermans ideal. The same is true of the UK if you get fed up with fishing for stockies or expensive club waters.
Holland is also a good base for fishing trips to the France, Belgium and Germany where you can find fantastic trout fishing.
I still get on a plane a couple of times a year for a trout fix.
All in all can't complain.
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Post by Jalume on Jan 11, 2005 17:27:48 GMT -5
Sounds great. I may try and convince the wife on a nice fishing, no I meant romantic weekend away to Holland!
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Post by Uskgrub on Jan 16, 2005 8:11:19 GMT -5
I spent Chistmas and the New Year in Holland. I found a trout fishery about 5 km east of Meppel. It seems I gate crashed their Christmas party! They had three small lakes. One used to be the local swimming pool. There were two men fishing. They were using fixed spool reels and they told me they were using powerbait - whatever that is. I saw one dead rainbow left in the mud and another one dead in a keepnet. I suggested to the owner that one pool be reserved for flyfishing but he said there was not enough demand for it. Sad really. I should think that pools in sandy ground (as that one was) would make good trout lakes. I believe that there is a lot of potential in Holland for stocked trout lakes that are fly only. Regards Uskgrub
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 16, 2005 8:38:33 GMT -5
I saw one dead rainbow left in the mud and another one dead in a keepnet. Sounds great!
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 17, 2005 6:48:01 GMT -5
I believe that there is a lot of potential in Holland for stocked trout lakes that are fly only. It seems to me that the Dutch are very happy to fly-fish for course fish in general so perhaps the demand for trout isn't really there. I think in England fly fishing for other species will boom. The salt water fishing scene is growing at an incredible rate, as is pike on the fly and this is causing people to consider what other species they can persue with a fly rod. Most fly-fishers will agree that the persuit of truly wild fish in wild water is this sport at its best. It is both free and available to everyone who is willing to cast to other species.
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Post by flyfishingdutchman on Jan 17, 2005 17:01:34 GMT -5
well there are quite a lot of troutlakes in holland (yes all artificial) and some of them are quite nice. The most beautifull place to flyfish for trout is the Oostvoorne meer. It is a huge lake that lies just beneath rotterdam and was dug for the sand for the harbour. It has a very low salt contence and the Dutch flyfishing ass. releases loads of trout every year. The trout fare great there and trouts of 80 cm have been caught. I have been there once and it was impressive to see some cruising the shores. They are semi wild and sometimes difficult to catch. It is catch and release, and the old ones know the drill. A permit is needed from the VNV ( dutch asso.) and it is just fly only. but still coarse fish is the maintarget for the dutch, and nowadays roofblei (a fish that came from the donnau is gaining popularity)
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 25, 2005 12:49:31 GMT -5
nowadays roofblei (a fish that came from the donnau is gaining popularity) Can they be found anywhere near Amsterdam? For those that don't know the Roofblei. It looks like a chubb on steroids. And apparantly fight like demons!
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Post by flyfishingdutchman on Jan 29, 2005 19:30:47 GMT -5
the most famous place for them, where most of the action is ( huge fortexes in the water) is in the river Ijsel. It is more to the east of holland, i haven't been there. but reading the stories and the dutch fora it is the place to be, especially in spring and summer. I caught one last year in a small river near my house, but they are still to few in numbers to hunt specificly. They are greta fighters, I ahve already seen photo's and reports of roofbleis bigger then a meter! near amsterdam I don't really know, i don't think so.
The best place to fish for them on big rivers is between the 'kribben"( the small stone dikes in the rivers) where the current is most strong and turns a lot. The fly used are flywobblers or streamers
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Post by nicepix on Jan 30, 2005 6:49:01 GMT -5
Firstly a question to Handsome Stick - I understand that Dutch anglers are pioneering braid leaders.
When fishing for pike do you use a wire leader or braid. If braid what type please?
Secondly, the Roofblei is also found in Cyprus dams where it is known as the Rapfen and tends to hunt small fish in the surface layers.
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Post by Vleetman on Jan 30, 2005 8:45:24 GMT -5
I live just outside Rotterdam (Papendrecht). I have found that the trout fisheries in our area are rubbish and the fish taste the same (muddy).
On the upside the pike fishing with flys in the rivers or small waters is brilliant, nothing big for me but great fun.
The greatest fresh water fishing that I have done is for Carp on the fly.
Mullet are also great fun as are Bass and Pollock.
Alan
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Post by The Handsome Stick on Jan 30, 2005 9:24:02 GMT -5
Firstly a question to Handsome Stick - I understand that Dutch anglers are pioneering Dear Nicepix, I'm not sure about this. Everyone I have met have fished with wire leaders. Not being Dutch (English) and not knowing that many Dutch pike anglers, I am certainly no authority on the Dutch pike scene. As Swier is really the definitive voice on the Dutch pike scene and he certainly uses a wire leader. If it's good for him...
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Post by flyfishingdutchman on Jan 31, 2005 18:48:12 GMT -5
About the leaders: it is not that difficult. We use mainly 1- 1,5 meters of thick leader material, I use 40/00 ( first I used 30/00 but people adviced me to use thicker material. And we use little steel "tippets" ( about 20-30 cm) The pike doesn't care, it is an explosive charge and I can't believe that they, have a good look Last summer i caught a pike ( 90 cm) which you could see all the time swimming in the upper layers, he charged two times and the third one (after having taken the fly in his mouth the second time) i could hook her. She didn't care about anything, and she took her time following the bait. Great show, great memory
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Post by flyfishingdutchman on Jan 31, 2005 18:49:38 GMT -5
this was the pike in question, just outside my flat
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