bob church invitational.

[mgi]

"If your face fits" Springs to mind Dave? You / We ain't missing anything and, if you don't get invited then those who have, ain't beat the best!

[camshy]

Davy , again i am only saying what was said at the AGM.

What does Nicola Church have to say about the Scottish selection if she is happy with it , well thats that

[creelman]

The invite for the Bob Church was done through the Scottish International Secretary in my day.

Somewhere alone the lines Mr Campbell got involved them Mr Earle.

The six invites were origionally for 6 top anglers from Scotland and the invite to these six was given by SANA.

It does appear as it is now them and such as them who get an invite and has been for a few years now.

The competition that was spoken about as having nothing to do with Sana at the AGM was the other Earle select, the so called commonwealth one, it was stated that the commonwealth had nothing to do with SANA now and that it was now a bit like the Tynant and the Bob Church.

The Bob Church is a hard one to win, there are a lot of top anglers fish it each year. A lot more top anglers who never get the chance now as well.

Well done Colin, theres a lot of anglers would like to have their name on that one.

Its actually amazing how many top anglers say its a mickey mouse day out but soon change their tune when they actually win it. I can think of several top english ones who have done just that.

[camshy]

It was me who raised the subject at the AGM about the commonwealth selection because it was mentioned that there may be caps for it in other countries, i asked why Scotland were not going down the same road and sending our strongest team. It was mentioned earlier at the AGM Scotland were not getting good results at the Worlds and a new format was being put into place , i asked could this not apply to the Commonwealth and this is when i got my answer. They also refer to the Commonwealth as the kid on one because it is not an official one, these are only official if the worlds are being held in a Commonwealth country. I never mentioned the Bob Church Classic or Tynant these came from the Chair. Anyway well done to Colin a great win

[thewidowsson]

hi campbell, it gets quite frustrating when people do not listen properly to what you say, if they had been at the agm they would not have to question you again and again. you have rounded it off perfectly with your last reply.
thewidowsson.

[creelman]

The original Commonwealth set up was started in the late 80`s by Arthur Humbert from England, his wife Ann and Jack Simpson from Canada.

All the Commonwealth countries who fished in the World Championships were invited to join this set up and Sana did join.

They fished a Commonwealth match on the back of the World Championships each year that this was held in a commonwealth country. There wasn`t a match when it was held outwith these countries.

SANA did give caps when this was an official competition but it kinda fell apart in the later years, no idea why. There was an official match in 1999, no idea if there were any official ones after that. I think Bob Church and maybe some others took it on board and ran it by asking someone in each country to arrange their team.

Iain Earle was the person asked in Scotland and he hand picked his team which as was stated at the AGM is nothing to do with SANA. THe folks asked to fish do not get caps and I doubt if they ever will as long as its run in the way it is. I can`t see the clubs present at any competitions AGM ever agreeing to caps being given for it while it is run in the present format. Hell look at the venue choosen in Scotland, that says it all.

All Scottish teams run by SANA are done on a selection process and the anglers are there because they did the business on the day(s) required.

[camshy]

Well put Creelman, the last official one was in England in 2000 Scotland came second. Bob Church organised this one and because it went so well i think he planned one for the next year so this is how it became unoffical, it just has went on . Maybe they should change the name because there may be an official one soon and hopefully SANA will make arrangements to hold Qualifiers

[bigrex1]

Hi guys.
as everyone keeps saying it is not an official comp, I was one of the lucky ones everyone is slagging of but i really dont give a ****. It was a very friendly although competitive two days which I really enjoyed and went home with individual and team silver. I have not been chosen this year but im not complaining about it. Maybe some day it will become official but until that time let some guys enjoy a couple of days fishing without all the bitching.
Oh and by the way im not a feckin Mickey Moose angler. and will compete with anyone any time and at a venue of their choosing.
BB

[camshy]

Bill , i am not slagging off anybody my best mates were in the team you were in and some went to wales to . Its SANA that called it unofficial at the AGM . I went to the Tynant for years and they kicked up a stink because Tynant called it an international competition, again it was a friendly competition and very competitive, sometimes you just have to watch the wording of events, there are a lot of green eyed monsters out there mate .Good luck to anyone who gets an invite to any of the mentioned competitons, and they are in no means Mickey Mouse comps you are fishing against some of the very top rods in the UK.

This is the last i will add to this post, maybe if more folk went to the AGM they would have heard it from the horses mouth ;D ;D ;D

[bigrex1]

not having a go at anyone personaly campbell im just fed up with all the critisim ive heard over the last 18 months.
BB.

[Daver]

bill,

you are talking about the commmonwealth, the main reason everyone is bitching is because this year nearly all the teams are giving caps to their angler, wales are fishing eliminators for this and so did the other countrys except Scotland. Everyone is taking this serious except Scotland.

My surely understand that you cannot possibly get a cap for the commonwealth when you have not fished for your county in an International.

But this has been cleared up at the AGM as SANA said it is nothing to do with them and no caps will be provided, job done.

The Bob Church on the other hand reads differently if you ever get the chance to see the actual invitations then you will see what I mean.

Oh and well done to Colin for winning and also being invited on the Leven Flycasters merits for winning the Anglian and that invite came direct from Bob Church himself.

Rgds...Dave

[creelman]

I`m sure it was the competition that was called mickey mouse, not the anglers. Maybe I read or heard it wrong.

Most anglers would go and fish it if asked but it still dont make it a real competition as far as the Scottish team is concerned.

I think you will find Bill, its the way the team is organised that the bitching is about, not the actual anglers and the same applies to the Bob Church. As long as guys are hand picked and not there on merit through eliminators or sucess in the Scottish set up there will always be bitching.

Mind you, theres plenty bitching about the eliminators as well, who would be a committee member these days, specially when every Tom, thingy and Harry can do it better.

No offense to any Tom, thingy or Harry by the way, well maybe one lol

[creelman]

ffs you can`t type D ick as in a guys name.

[carrondam]

set the cat among the pigeons scotland were sponsored in the commonwealth last year, by the company that owns the water where it was fished. the problem in scotlasd at the moment the average comp fisher has know idea whats going on and wont.

[3lbgrayling]

carrondam,and wont what,?

jim